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Strictly a talking point: How much would losing Aranda hurt O?

Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:04 pm
Posted by King of New Orleans
In front of The Hungry Tiger
Member since Jul 2011
9946 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:04 pm
It would have to be a huge blow to him and his tenure at LSU, right? Not saying I want O gone and I'm not saying I want him to stay. Strictly talking point.

It doesn't look good at all to possibly be without both coordinators within your first year after proclaiming you will have "the best".

Only positive for O's sake would be that A&M would have to pay for Aranda.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32647 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:05 pm to
The shock of it happening isn't as big of a deal as not having Aranda here. I don't trust O or the admin to make a competent hire afterwards
Posted by BasilBogomil
Member since Dec 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:05 pm to
Finished.
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:05 pm to
He'd be done.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84082 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:05 pm to
Worst thing that could happen for O.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:05 pm to
“Hire the best coordinators”

Lose both after year 1.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:06 pm to
As long as Alleva is around O has nothing to worry about.

Losing Aranda IMO should be the point where we boot Alleva, because if it happens I wouldn't be shocked if Joe goes the "hot head" route like he did with Herman and refuse to negotiate.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94503 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:06 pm to
It's a fatal blow. Honestly, Aranda was probably only around for a year or two more. But since O's value is almost entirely tied to having top tier coordinatord, losing one of..if not the top DC in the country is catastrophic.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21267 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:07 pm to
That should say it all.

Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41170 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:07 pm to
BIGLY
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43103 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:07 pm to
If you had a tag team wrestling duo and lost the biggest most powerful guy and were left with a small skinny douche bag, would that hurt?
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:07 pm to
3 wins next year
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
41494 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:10 pm to
It would be the death nail for O.
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
5454 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:10 pm to
It just shows how stupid it is to hire a CEO type head coach. The model of underpaid recruting HC, best offensive coordinator, and best defensive coordinator is great in theory, but what happens when the coordinators aren't happy working for a buffoon? See LSU Ed O experiment.

You need to hire a guru of one side of the ball, have the OC/DC (depending on the expertise of the HC) be a puppet, and then pour money for a name brand coordinator on the other side of the ball.

How often are you going to be concerned with who Saban's DC is or who Meyer's OC is?
Posted by bengalfan50
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
2467 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:13 pm to
O is a weak head coach due to his lack of knowledge on both sides of the ball. He has to watch old movies to get ideas on offensive philosophy and would be the same on D, which he is a position guru not a scheme tech. From the start it is known he is nothing without top flight assistants and he is screwing with them to satisfy his own ego.
Posted by King of New Orleans
In front of The Hungry Tiger
Member since Jul 2011
9946 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

How often are you going to be concerned with who Saban's DC is or who Meyer's OC is?


This is a mind blowing question that I've never even considered but so true when you think about it. I'm now more annoyed.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 1:16 pm
Posted by Tiny Rick
In a vat in the garage
Member since Jan 2016
1517 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:22 pm to
It’d be the equivalent of the US getting involved with the World Wars armed only with plastic spoons
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16823 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

It just shows how stupid it is to hire a CEO type head coach. The model of underpaid recruting HC, best offensive coordinator, and best defensive coordinator is great in theory, but what happens when the coordinators aren't happy working for a buffoon? See LSU Ed O experiment. You need to hire a guru of one side of the ball, have the OC/DC (depending on the expertise of the HC) be a puppet, and then pour money for a name brand coordinator on the other side of the ball. How often are you going to be concerned with who Saban's DC is or who Meyer's OC is?


Amen, brother.

I've said repeatedly that this "figurehead HC with elite coordinators" is a house of cards that will tumble down sooner rather than later.

It's not a system, it's Alleva's desperate spin after he fricked up the HC hire.

I've been a Los Angeles Rams fan all my life and we finally got a HC hire right.

Under Sean McVay, the Rams have gone from the worst offense in the NFL to the best the very next season--with McVay's offense and with him calling the plays.

Does anyone give a shite who the Rams' offensive coordinator is? It doesn't matter--you get an apprentice for a placeholder.

It may be a cliche but you need a head coach who can lock.down.one.side.of.the.ball.

Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:23 pm to
Oh it would be the end. 2 years max
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71695 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:24 pm to
A death blow.
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