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re: Stop worrying about Brandon Harris
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:37 pm to Tigerpaul1969
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:37 pm to Tigerpaul1969
No, I will not stop worrying about Brandon Harris.
The fate of the LSU Football season is in his hands.
Wish him the very best, but he has a lot to prove.
The fate of the LSU Football season is in his hands.
Wish him the very best, but he has a lot to prove.
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Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:38 pm to KLSU
He actually did improve greatly over the year. If you recall, he was rarely used in the first two to three games. By the time we got to USC, he had three straight very good games against USC, UF and W Ky. Remember, through the W. Ky game, he had thrown 9 TDs and 0 picks. Then, he got the sports hernia against Bama and was set back (although he did average 300 yards/game against Arky and Ole Miss). He was very good in the bowl game as well.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:40 pm to El Campo Tiger
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No, I will not stop worrying about Brandon Harris.
You know Harris was playing like one of the top QBs in the SEC before his sports hernia injury vs Bama. Just saying
The offensive line didn't give him any help in those losses either. LSU's offense ended the season on 5 straight TDs in the bowl game. (vs Texas Tech's defense)
This post was edited on 9/1/16 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:44 pm to tzimme4
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You know Harris was playing like one of the top QBs in the SEC before his sports hernia injury vs Bama. Just saying
that was due more to the weaker competition early in the year, not an injury.
Our schedule toughened up beginning with Bama, and that was the primary cause of the poor performance.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:47 pm to Tigerpaul1969
I agree whole heartily ,We have always had great O line men But not necessarily on the same line same year ! the cause of this I don't know. I think maybe we have been partial to recruiting defensive line men ,unlike some people I don't claim to be a expert on the matter !
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:47 pm to atltiger6487
From wikipedia about sports hernia:
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Symptoms include pain during sports movements, particularly hip extension, and twisting and turning. This pain usually radiates to the adductor muscle region and even the testicles, although it is often difficult for the patient to pin-point the exact location.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:48 pm to atltiger6487
I'll just leave this here. (Heading into Bama) LINK
His best game in SEC play was vs Florida, I don't find that weak competition at all.
Actually his inability to be mobile and to roll out of the pocket hurt LSU's playcalling a ton. You rarely saw Harris run any option or playaction rollouts after Bama because of his injury. His legs are also a huge asset
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that was due more to the weaker competition early in the year,
His best game in SEC play was vs Florida, I don't find that weak competition at all.
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Our schedule toughened up beginning with Bama, and that was the primary cause of the poor performance.
Actually his inability to be mobile and to roll out of the pocket hurt LSU's playcalling a ton. You rarely saw Harris run any option or playaction rollouts after Bama because of his injury. His legs are also a huge asset
This post was edited on 9/1/16 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:51 pm to Tigerpaul1969
Brandon Harris will be remembered as one of the greatest QBs in lsu history after this season
you heard it here first
you heard it here first
This post was edited on 9/1/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:51 pm to Tigerpaul1969
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will the O line be cohesive enough early on to keep him upright
no shite Sherlock.
not just early on. Bama.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:53 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Zach Mettenberger (redshirt junior): Year 1 - 207/352 - 58.8% - 2609 yards - 7.4 y/a – 12 TDs – 7 INTs - 128.3 QBR Year 2 - 192/296 - 64.9% - 3082 yards - 10.4 y/a - 22 TDs - 8 INTs - 171.4 QBR
Obviously, if we get Mett Year 2 numbers by BH, then this team will be unstoppable. But, we don't NEED that. Somewhere between Mett's two years will get us very far.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:54 pm to Tigerpaul1969
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From wikipedia about sports hernia:
If his condition was bad enough to effect performance, he should not have been playing. I don't take the hernia thing as his excuse for poor performance. It may sound bad but if your in the game, there are no excuses. I'm also not saying it was all his fault either.
He has plenty of talent with his arm and on the run, but he needs to bring it together this year.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:57 pm to stevengtiger
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If his condition was bad enough to effect performance, he should not have been playing. I don't take the hernia thing as his excuse for poor performance. It may sound bad but if your in the game, there are no excuses.
From wikipedia:
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As pain in the groin and pelvis can be referred from a number of problems, including injuries to the lumbar spine, the hip joint, the sacro-iliac joint, the abdomen, and the genito-urinary system, diagnosis of athletic pubalgia requires skillful differentiation and pubic examination in certain cases where there is intense groin pain.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:58 pm to Tigerpaul1969
Bottom line is if an injury was affecting his play, he didn't need to be on the field. Doesn't matter if it was diagnosed correctly or not.
This post was edited on 9/1/16 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:59 pm to stevengtiger
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If his condition was bad enough to effect performance, he should not have been playing.
You honestly think Jennings could have done better?
But seriously Miles was "all-in" he couldn't go back to flip flopping QBs. Same goes for this season
This post was edited on 9/1/16 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 9/1/16 at 3:00 pm to Tigerpaul1969
I understand this. If he was in enough pain to lower his playing ability, he should have not been in the game. We had a veteran back up who could have been just as capable as Brandon was in the last four games. Only game he won while hurt besides the bowl game he was 7 of 21.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 3:00 pm to BayouBengals18
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But, we don't NEED that.
Exactly my point. Also, note that Brandon had a better QBR, more TDs, less picks, and a higher yard per attempt than Zach did in Year 1. And we all know what kind of weapons he had that year (Beckham, Landry, Boone and Jeremy Hill running). And also remember that Zach was a fourth year guy by that point. Brandon was only in his second year of college last year, so at least two years younger than Zach was his first year.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 3:01 pm to stevengtiger
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f his condition was bad enough to effect performance, he should not have been playing. I don't take the hernia thing as his excuse for poor performance. It may sound bad but if your in the game, there are no excuses. I'm also not saying it was all his fault either.
I've said this numerous times. If the medical staff, the coaches, and the player himself all agree the player can play, then I don't want to hear excuses.
If the injury was so severe that it would adversely affect his performance, then Harris should've been pulled.
But he played all the games after the injury, so he was deemed healthy enough. So he has to produce. It's just how it is.
And the same thing applies to any other QB on any other team. If you're healthy enough to play, then you've got to get it done on the field.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 3:01 pm to Tigerpaul1969
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Stop worrying about Brandon Harris
Have you watched Brandon Harris play QB the last 2 seasons?? How could you NOT be worried about him?
Posted on 9/1/16 at 3:02 pm to BayouBengals18
Well, can't you see a situation where Brandon is complaining about the pain, but telling the coaches he can play through it. And maybe no one was really sure what was wrong with him because as we all know the sports hernia wasn't diagnosed until later. And, as I mentioned, he did AVERAGE 300 yards in the next two games against Ole Miss and Arkansas, so it wasn't like we were hiding him.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 3:02 pm to tzimme4
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You honestly think Jennings could have done better?
Couldn't have done much worse. We lost two more and won a game that BH was non-existent in.
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But seriously Miles was "all-in" he couldn't go back to flip flopping QBs.
Agreed. But if comes out and said he was hurt, nobody could blame him for sitting him.
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