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re: Stop the jackassery about all this talent
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:30 am to Erin Go Bragh
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:30 am to Erin Go Bragh
quote:That was a lucid, intelligent...well thought out objection!!!!!
Every year LSU plays 7-8 games where they enjoy an overwhelming talent advantage and 2-3 where they enjoy a slight talent advantage. This advantage has covered up a great deal of coaching deficiencies over the years.
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Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:34 am to Erin Go Bragh
quote:Miles has used this to his advantage year after year. However, this year, with one of the weakest D-Lines & LB cores since he has been here, to go along with an underachieving OL, the inferior coaching has been painfully obvious...
Every year LSU plays 7-8 games where they enjoy an overwhelming talent advantage and 2-3 where they enjoy a slight talent advantage. This advantage has covered up a great deal of coaching deficiencies over the years.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:36 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
this is college football
who recruits our talent?
no shite. i also bet this clown thinks our game management and preparation last night was great as well.
or that miles has never had these recurring issues since 2005
I FORM AGAINST A LOADED BOX FOR THE WIN BABY!!!!!!!!1
:banghead:
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:40 am to Choupique19
quote:
The same o line that returned 4/5 starters from last year?
The same O line that got Mett killed at Bama and other games.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:41 am to GregMaddux
Everyone gets pumped up on this site when a recruit commits or even names us their leader - but over the past 2-3 years, 80% of those are RB's, WR's, and DB's. I don't care how many good skilled players you have, if you get dominated in the trenches, you're going to be a mediocre team at best. And at the bottom of the SEC West.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:41 am to RealityTiger
Look at the OL and DL depth chart especially the Fr and Soph. It is just not there any longer.
We made some really less than spectacular recruiting decisions over the last several years.
We made some really less than spectacular recruiting decisions over the last several years.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:42 am to RealityTiger
quote:
Respectfully disagree.
Same here. Fournette is averaging well over 5 ypc yet the coaches refuse to pump him the ball 20 times a game. The OL was actually opening holes on first down last night. It was the 2nd and third down play-calling and QB execution that sucked. Defensively, the youth is a huge problem, along with coaching stubbornness in playing the best players. And missed tackling with athletes at this level is all about lack of technique and faulty schemes. Again, coaches missing the mark. D.B.'s in position to swat passes away and whiffing. Again, can be fixed by coaching. Hideous job by the entire coaching staff this year IMO. Harris had a horrible game as well but that kid will bounce back.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:44 am to Erin Go Bragh
quote:
Every year LSU plays 7-8 games where they enjoy an overwhelming talent advantage and 2-3 where they enjoy a slight talent advantage. This advantage has covered up a great deal of coaching deficiencies over the years.
please no facts!!!!!!!
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:49 am to bearhc
Someone who is 22/23 yrs old and has been training and learning at a high level program like ours or most in the SEC will usually trump a 5* Freshmen over the course of a game or season. Our guys just aren't sticking around in the program long enough.
How good would we have been last year with Montgomery and Mingo at DE, Simon at CB and Honey Badger as a senior? Man with that offense we would have won a natty. Forgot to add Minter at MLB we definitely win the whole thing.
2012 if we would have had Claiborne and Brockers as had Randle at WR and had Honey Badger man we could have won the whole show.
NFL losses are killing us, hopefully the new draft grade structure will reduce some of it but there has to be a reason. Money sure but are our guys the only ones who want money. LSU has 21 then Bama with 10. Why are our guys leaving in droves? It has to be more than just money.
How good would we have been last year with Montgomery and Mingo at DE, Simon at CB and Honey Badger as a senior? Man with that offense we would have won a natty. Forgot to add Minter at MLB we definitely win the whole thing.
2012 if we would have had Claiborne and Brockers as had Randle at WR and had Honey Badger man we could have won the whole show.
NFL losses are killing us, hopefully the new draft grade structure will reduce some of it but there has to be a reason. Money sure but are our guys the only ones who want money. LSU has 21 then Bama with 10. Why are our guys leaving in droves? It has to be more than just money.
This post was edited on 10/5/14 at 11:54 am
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:52 am to Fat Bastard
There is no game plan that keeps us in that game. Sorry bro.
Accept this and move on.
Accept this and move on.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:53 am to GregMaddux
It is the coaches who recruited the players we have. It is on the Head Coach who botched 1-9 and has not change his offense since. LSU is no longer attractive to top QBs and WR.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:54 am to GregMaddux
There is plenty of talent at the WR and RB position. The whole defense is weak, and not sure how that happened since most were highly recruited. Either talent evaluation or development is a problem. I don't think anyone on the defensive side of the ball knows how to tackle.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:59 am to GregMaddux
We do have the talent. Unfortunately the youth is just not ready. We are spoiled with young players making inpacts early like Tyrann.
Sometimes we luck out with 3 star guys turning out to be All-SEC such as Claiborne. But this year, none of that is happening....yet.
I believe Auburn and MooSt are probably 2 of the best teams in the nation, and we played poorly in those games as we bring along young quarterbacks. But its the defense that has failed us. Cannot continue to lose Juniors to NFL while our freshman have to play senior heavy teams.
Sometimes we luck out with 3 star guys turning out to be All-SEC such as Claiborne. But this year, none of that is happening....yet.
I believe Auburn and MooSt are probably 2 of the best teams in the nation, and we played poorly in those games as we bring along young quarterbacks. But its the defense that has failed us. Cannot continue to lose Juniors to NFL while our freshman have to play senior heavy teams.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:59 am to GregMaddux
quote:
there is no game plan that keeps us in that game.
Accept it and move on
So you readily accept that we can't even stay on the field against Miss St and Auburn? Just think about what you just said. Our program is at a level that we can't even be competitbe with our SEC West opponents.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 12:00 pm to GregMaddux
quote:In college football, if you have a talent problem THAT IS on the coaches. Sheesh
We are light on talent at the moment. Deal with it. It wasn't the coaches. It wasn't the qb. The whole team is weak.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 12:01 pm to GregMaddux
In the 90's, fans asked "How can we be losing with all the talent we have?".
At that time, I always pointed out that our "talented" players were choosing LSU over schools such as Southern Miss.
When players are choosing LSU over the top programs, then you can ask that.
Now, we do have the talent, which must be developed and properly used by the very expensive coaching staff.
At that time, I always pointed out that our "talented" players were choosing LSU over schools such as Southern Miss.
When players are choosing LSU over the top programs, then you can ask that.
Now, we do have the talent, which must be developed and properly used by the very expensive coaching staff.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 12:04 pm to GregMaddux
quote:
Stop the jackassery
Posted on 10/5/14 at 12:05 pm to Fat Bastard
I'm not sure you understand the difference between facts and opinions.
A fact would be that we lost to Auburn 41-7
An opinion would be that we had just as much talent
A fact would be that we lost to Auburn 41-7
An opinion would be that we had just as much talent
This post was edited on 10/5/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 10/5/14 at 12:05 pm to GregMaddux
I actually agree. Our coaching is shite, but our boys are slower, weaker, and less coordinated than peer competitors.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 12:06 pm to GregMaddux
quote:
We are light on talent at the moment
Not true...now developing that talent, especially on the D-Line, then yeah that has really gone down.
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