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re: Sooooooooooooooo frustrating, Mr Crowton, that .....
Posted on 10/19/08 at 11:40 am to BitterMaverick
Posted on 10/19/08 at 11:40 am to BitterMaverick
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Up to the 4th qtr, LSU ran 15 times to 7 passes on 1st down.
which was getting us 3+ yards late in the game after beating on their D and sets up the play action pass in the fourth quarter.
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Posted on 10/19/08 at 11:41 am to Cornholio
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He comes in the game and the opposing team knows he's getting the ball.
The exact same thing happened last season.
Posted on 10/19/08 at 11:52 am to TigerJeff
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Did LSU lose last night
Nobody is saying that we lost. He only seems to think that maybe we should be LESS predictable on 1st downs. Damn! It seems like the ONLY f'ing time to give constructive criticism is after a loss. Fans had similar concerns after the Moo St. game and the same response was received. Then we got f'ing "Molly Whomped" by UF and THEN there seemed to be slight signs of concern.
LSU should be further along than where they are. Yes, we only have 1 loss but realistically we have only played 2 decent teams. Our QB situation will only improve with time and so will our DB's. But out lines must play well every game and there is no excuse for the lack of pressure on opposing QB's. Our play-calling has to be more creative in the sense of making other teams GUESS where we will try to go with the ball.
Posted on 10/19/08 at 11:54 am to BitterMaverick
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You line up in the I formation with 2 wr and run Scott 95% of the time on FIRST down
For the game LSU ran on 21 of the 32 first down plays. Scott ran on 10 of those 21. I haven't seen the replay yet, but as soon as GeauxZone has the video up I'll check to see how many of Scott's 10 runs were from the formation you mention.
Either way, it is pretty safe to say you are full of shite.
This post was edited on 10/19/08 at 11:57 am
Posted on 10/19/08 at 11:56 am to ellis1975
but im sure if they did get "unpredictable" with their play calling, yall would still find something to bitch about. Like a bunch of damn women!
Posted on 10/19/08 at 12:04 pm to ellis1975
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He only seems to think that maybe we should be LESS predictable on 1st downs. Damn! It seems like the ONLY f'ing time to give constructive criticism is after a loss
Constructive criticism is one thing. Making shite up just so you can bitch about it is completely different.
Posted on 10/19/08 at 12:13 pm to MOT
his percentages might be wrong, his statistics may be wrong, but his point is right
2 turnovers that negated negative yardage for us. we had three or four consecutive three and outs in the third quarter from the 50, aside from the deep ball to byrd it was very conservative calling on those drives. All those drives started out with runs.
i don't mind the gameplan to tire out the defense, but at some point you have to just change up things and move the ball to tire them out. three and outs don't really accomplish that.
2 turnovers that negated negative yardage for us. we had three or four consecutive three and outs in the third quarter from the 50, aside from the deep ball to byrd it was very conservative calling on those drives. All those drives started out with runs.
i don't mind the gameplan to tire out the defense, but at some point you have to just change up things and move the ball to tire them out. three and outs don't really accomplish that.
Posted on 10/19/08 at 12:15 pm to MOT
I agree that it is frustrating being predictable on 1st down whenever we line up in the I formation, but I think you are looking at it the wrong way. I'll take 3-4 yards a pop on every single 1st down, that's actually pretty decent. It's the 2nd downs that killed us. We would pretty much be 2nd and 6 or 7 and get a stupid false start, or a poor attempt to call an audible, or a delayed handoff, or however else you can poorly execute a 2nd down play. This would leave us 3rd 8, which obviously sucks, but the 2nd and 6/7, that's not so bad.
Posted on 10/19/08 at 12:17 pm to asylvi1
thats how you win games in the SEC with a young QB.
Posted on 10/19/08 at 12:39 pm to cene
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his percentages might be wrong, his statistics may be wrong, but his point is right
Not really. Especially considering his stats and percentages are nowhere close to being right.
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we had three or four consecutive three and outs in the third quarter from the 50
False.
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All those drives started out with runs
At least this part is right.
We had 3 drives in the 3rd quarter. All started with runs. The first two were 3 & outs. The 3rd drive was a TD.
Once again, if you want to complain about something then dispute what actually happens. Don't make up some bullshite just to fit your argument.
Posted on 10/19/08 at 12:47 pm to BitterMaverick
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LSU ran 15 times to 7 passes on 1st down.
Thats pretty balanced if you asked me. You make them think its run and bam its pass. If we threw the ball the same amount we ran the ball on first down I think we would be in trouble.
Posted on 10/19/08 at 1:06 pm to MOT
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Sooooooooooooooo frustrating, Mr Crowton, that .....
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his percentages might be wrong, his statistics may be wrong, but his point is right
Not really. Especially considering his stats and percentages are nowhere close to being right.
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we had three or four consecutive three and outs in the third quarter from the 50
False.
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All those drives started out with runs
At least this part is right.
We had 3 drives in the 3rd quarter. All started with runs. The first two were 3 & outs. The 3rd drive was a TD.
Once again, if you want to complain about something then dispute what actually happens. Don't make up some bullshite just to fit your argument.
oh my! so my inaccuracies in the amount of consecutive three and outs were wrong. That point alone makes everything i said complete utter bullshite. Let me know when you getting off your cross so we can actually have an intelligent conversation.
Posted on 10/19/08 at 1:11 pm to south bama tiger
Since Trindon is such a giveaway,
they should bring him in as decoy on a few plays.
they should bring him in as decoy on a few plays.
Posted on 10/19/08 at 1:29 pm to BitterMaverick
You have to wear down the other team's DL....look at the 4th quarter for the results of all those runs on first out of the I early in the game.
Posted on 10/19/08 at 1:31 pm to TigerBait1127
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we were protecting our quarterbacks and for good reason
exactly
Posted on 10/19/08 at 1:35 pm to cene
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That point alone makes everything i said complete utter bullshite
Yeah, pretty much. When you say doing ____ caused us 3 or 4 consecutive 3 and outs, and it simply did not happen, it means you are just making shite up.
Ofcourse LSU doesn't need to line up with 2 WRs, 1 TE, and run Scott 95% of the time on first down like the first poster said. And they didn't do it. LSU needs to mix it up on 1st down, and they did.
I could just as easily start a thread about why LSU shouldn't play Trindon at defensive tackle and it would make as much sense as this thread.
Posted on 10/19/08 at 1:52 pm to MOT
so our conservative play calling didn't stall out a good drive in the first half?
our run run pass didn't force consecutive three and outs?
after two of the three turnovers our offense didn't go backwards?
no your right, my inaccuracies on the amount of our consecutive three and outs makes everything bullshite.
was the original thread right with his percentages no, but we were very predictable on first and sometimes second down up until late in the game.
our run run pass didn't force consecutive three and outs?
after two of the three turnovers our offense didn't go backwards?
no your right, my inaccuracies on the amount of our consecutive three and outs makes everything bullshite.
was the original thread right with his percentages no, but we were very predictable on first and sometimes second down up until late in the game.
Posted on 10/19/08 at 2:00 pm to cene
I would agree on the part about TH. He is a threat and even if he does not get the ball I would like to see him in a little more often just as a decoy/keeping the other team on their toes. I did hear Miles say something to the fact about him not getting touches it had something to do with certain sets with the QB's. Not quite sure, I would just like to see him with the ball a little more often.
Posted on 10/19/08 at 2:37 pm to Uncle Stu
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you mean like when Holliday sits on the sidelines for 2 series then suddenly breaks huddle......and SURPRISE!! he gets the ball on the play??
I agree we need to get him into the offense a little bit more and not put him in and go to him everytime
Posted on 10/19/08 at 2:40 pm to cene
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so our conservative play calling didn't stall out a good drive in the first half?
I don't know, poor execution probably had more to do with it. You can just as easily say our aggressive playcalling also led to a pick and a TD in the 2nd quarter.
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our run run pass didn't force consecutive three and outs?
No, not executing the run run pass led to consecutive 3 and outs (and only one of them was run run pass, the other was run pass pass).
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no your right, my inaccuracies on the amount of our consecutive three and outs makes everything bullshite
Yes, it does. We've already covered that, but I'm glad you agree.
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we were very predictable on first and sometimes second down up until late in the game.
Actually LSU passed on first down 6 times in the first half, and only passed on first down 3 times in the second half.
It all comes down to execution. Crowton mixed it up just enough. This is a classic case of a few people that don't have a clue what they are talking about getting pissed when Scott is stopped for no gain on 1st down and then yelling "Sonofabitch!!! All we ever do is run Scott right up the middle every damn time on 1st down and it never works!!!!" When in fact we do not run Scott right up the middle every damn time on 1st down.
I'm going to go ahead and call the coaches out right now for playing Trindon at DT. He clearly isn't big enough to play the position and they shouldn't have him in there.
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