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re: Something in the football program is different

Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:58 am to
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:58 am to
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You are joking rt? This is why I hate our fans. Y'all don't actually watch the games and make up complete bullshite.



Really, its tongue-in-cheek. I dont really know what goes on Im just talking shite but it sure looks the same from year-to-year (minus 2013) and from OC to OC.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 9:08 am
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:59 am to
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I dont really know what goes on


nailed it

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it sure looks the same from year-to-year and from OC to OC.


than you're not paying attention
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:59 am to
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Wow, you're legitimately retarded.


Thats a distinct possibly but it doesnt make me less wrong.

Even retards sometimes find a cookie in their pocket.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 9:00 am
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:01 am to
Call me when BDP is no longer coaching Special Teams
Posted by say when
Member since Mar 2015
1613 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:02 am to
Yes, many things are different.

Except Les Miles' head is still as hard as it ever has been.

Would love to believe he will change but he will have to prove me wrong over the course of the entire season...not just a couple of games.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:06 am to
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also has final editing rights on the playbook before he hands it to Cam the night before the game.



He's the head coach


Considering the type of offense he runs maybe its best if he does what a lot of good head coaches do and MANAGE the team and let his COORDINATORS coordinate in their respective fields of expertise.

This is what good managers in successful companies do. They dont micromanage. They hire and assemble a good team of highly skilled individuals, layout clear lines, delegate responsibility and then GET THE frickK OUT OF THE WAY.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:23 am to
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quote:
it sure looks the same from year-to-year and from OC to OC.



than you're not paying attention


Ok Me and like 90% of the rest of the world.

Do you even watch other teams run offense? Thats what a different offense looks like. LSU has pretty much ran the same offense the entire time Less Smiles has been here. He ran a little more read option with JJ which he should probably be doing with Harris.

Look, I get that he wants to protect his QBs confidence and not put too much on his shoulders especially after the J. Lee debacle but other teams seem to get this done even with freshmen. Dick Satan has the same philosophy when it comes to QBs but he turns them into great game managers and this goes all the way back to his time here(Matt Mauck). Seriously, there is a problem when there are 1* recruits from small schools who look more comfortable in the pocket than our QBs have.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:31 am to
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Considering the type of offense he runs maybe its best if he does what a lot of good head coaches do and MANAGE the team and let his COORDINATORS coordinate in their respective fields of expertise.



He does. All the coaches go over the game plan and the cooridinators call the plays. He makes suggestions...like run, pass, fake...but he does not call plays. this is what all head coaches do...except for maybe Sean Payton and a few others.

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This is what good managers in successful companies do. They dont micromanage.


its not micromanaging...it's his fricking job. Jesus

Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:33 am to
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LSU has pretty much ran the same offense the entire time Less Smiles has been here.


you're not even worth arguing with because you obviously don't pay attention

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Dick Satan has the same philosophy when it comes to QBs but he turns them into great game managers


no he doesn't...his coordinator does. Saban is not a QB coach...hell he's not even an offensive coach
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46691 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:33 am to
You want something not perfect?

Unless we get at least two more oline committments, a QB committment, and a running back committment (if DW plays LB) we will probably suck on offense in 3 or 4 years.

But I'm hopeful.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:34 am to
You just had to do this, didn't you?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46691 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:40 am to
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Its staring to feel like the old Les is back. From 13-15 he just didn't seem like himself. Maybe Joe was holding him back in some ways


What was holding him back was he did a shitty job recruiting dline and QB. What might hold him back moving forward is the recent shitty job he's done recruiting LBs and the looming shitty job he's doing recruiting Oline (hopefully this gets fixed in the next three weeks).
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80091 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:52 am to
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Seriously, there is a problem when there are 1* recruits from small schools who look more comfortable in the pocket than our QBs have.

This is truth. Only homers will deny this.

quote:

Less Smiles

quote:

Dick Satan

I wish you'd stop with this
Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
3981 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 9:57 am to
Agreed...

LSU fans are nothing if not consistent...if they see the toss dive or a short side option than the offense hasn't changed and it's all Les' fault...
If a bunch of Jrs declare for the draft, they are leaving because of Les Miles and he is killing the program...now a bunch of Jrs are staying and Les gets no credit...
The usual knee jerk crap that blames Les for all things bad and never gives him any credit for the good.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:37 am to
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recent shitty job he's done recruiting LBs and the looming shitty job he's doing recruiting Oline


We signed Donovaughn Campbell and have Will Allen in the wings after signing Maea Teuhema, Chidi Valentine-Okeke, and Toby Weathersby last year. Teuhema was a regular starter this year and Weathersby was the first off the bench when Hawkins was out with injury.

And while we did a shitty job of recruiting LBs in the past, that blame needs to be placed on the position coach that was actually recruiting them. In this class, we have Fowler, Divinity, White, Cameron, and may be signing 1-2 more.

As far as QBs go, we did miss out on Patterson and Franks, but are making some major moves on Haskins and Russo in this class and Narcisse in '17, and I really think McMillan is going to be a gem from last year.

If you're bitching about recruiting THIS year, then there really just is nothing but cloudy days for you.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:09 am to
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no he doesn't...his coordinator does. Saban is not a QB coach...hell he's not even an offensive coach


Hes had essentially the same type of QB and the same type of QB development and philosophy through multiple OC changes. So while I agree he is obviously a defensive coach that doesnt mean he doesnt have a hand on the QB and his development.

Satan touches everything on his team. Thats why it looks the same through so much coaching turnover. He let Kiffin do some different things but I think that was to adapt to what Old Piss, TAMU and Auburn is doing.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:13 am to
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you're not even worth arguing with because you obviously don't pay attention


Again, do you watch other teams offenses? LSU has not changed much on offense. Do you disagree that a marked difference is needed?

Not saying that we need to run Oregon or Auburns offense but whats wrong with misdirection, quick slants, middle screens, passing to the TE, more than 3 formations, more than 2 receiver routes, a little read option, the draw play. Our recent playbook could fit on the back of a matchbook.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 11:14 am
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:29 am to
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its not micromanaging...it's his fricking job. Jesus


Jesus has nothing to do with this. Relax.

So would you not agree that the offense has more or less looked the same and that the OC has been different and that its strange that the offense hasnt looked that different(again, except for 2013).

I would appreciate if you would be less argumentative and more measured in your responses. Thanks.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:32 am to
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This is what good managers in successful companies do. They dont micromanage. They hire and assemble a good team of highly skilled individuals, layout clear lines, delegate responsibility and then GET THE frickK OUT OF THE WAY.


quote:

Satan touches everything on his team. Thats why it looks the same through so much coaching turnover.


So are you saying Nick Saban is a terrible manager, or that the corporate structure of a successful business has nothing to do with college athletics?
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:33 am to
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whats wrong with misdirection, quick slants, middle screens, passing to the TE, more than 3 formations, more than 2 receiver routes, a little read option, the draw play.


We did all of this last year.
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