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re: So if PATRICK PETERSON had such a down year....

Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by NJ El Tigre
New Jersey
Member since Oct 2010
1319 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:37 pm to
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People didn't throw to him. If he could teleport 40 yards to where the football was being thrown and intercept it then I would be very impressed. Also, how can you be complaining about his punt return TDs? Do you even have any idea how rare it is to get one, much less more than one like he did this year? Even the most electrifying returners will only get a couple of return touchdowns in a year.


yes i realize that special teams touchdowns are hard to come by. yes he did show up in the arkansas game in the return game. teams with good quarterbacks went after PP. julio owned him and maze burned him on a fade once and PP tackled him before the ball got there. and he blew a coverage that led to a touchdown against arky. just saying
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18886 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:39 pm to
Ok now I get it, cornerbacks aren't allowed to let anyone catch passes on them, even if it's some of the best receivers in the sport. Can't wait till I can watch someone with one of these mythical cornerbacks who doesn't let a single pass get completed on him.
Posted by lsudaboss
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2010
843 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:55 pm to
Hey gekko frick you how about that!!! You are probably some fat arse loser that wishes he had half the talent as PP7!!! Get a life!
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288690 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:56 pm to
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I love PP, but feel like he was outplayed by TM this year.



Posted by Wideman
Arlington, Virginia
Member since Jul 2005
11721 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:58 pm to
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julio owned him and maze burned him on a fade once and PP tackled him before the ball got there. and he blew a coverage that led to a touchdown against arky. just saying
when you can count on one hand the times a player (who played just about every down during the season) got beat, that player is certainly not overrated.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288690 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 5:59 pm to
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Am I the only one who realized that PP was no where to be found after the WVu game? No TD's and 1 pick.




what a joke.


look at Morris Claiborne's INT total. He can thank Peterson for people throwing that way.

Look at the way TM was able to get to the QB on those blitzes and make plays. Thank Peterson for that coverage.



Yeah, Julio Jones had a decent game. 1 game! We had no pass rush all year. Do you know how hard it is to cover when you cant generate a pass rush?
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
3190 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 6:02 pm to
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Am I the only one who realized that PP was no where to be found after the WVu game? No TD's and 1 pick


PP had a very good year and made an impact every game. He did not have a high number of interceptions or bone-jarring tackles that make good highlights on ESPN.

He covered receivers well. He broke up several passes. He tackled well if receivers did catch the ball. He played well in run support and made tackles pretty much every time he got solid contact on the runner. He had a great year as a returner. There isn't a whole lot more he could do. Sorry he wasn't more entertaining.

I haven't observed any other teams really play that much, so I can't give an objective opinion as to whether he was truly the best cornerback or defensive player this year. But he did play well. And every cornerback who has ever played the game has plays made against him and sometimes gets burned: Neon Deion, Champ Bailey, Corey Webster, etc. Peterson is no different, and I don't really recall him getting burned or abused very much at all; he just didn't have that many spectacular plays. This doesn't diminish his impact.

The last 2-3 seasons, it has been interesting (in a bad way) to see how fickle some fans are. Good accomplishments are far overshadowed in the minds of LSU fans by one or two bad plays; it's like some fans expect to see bad play by LSU, endure 58 minutes of good play, but feel validated by the 2 minutes of bad play that they were expecting to see... before some bone-head replies to point out a bad game or bad half where it was far more than 2 minutes of bad play, I mean what I said figuratively, not literally. Some LSU fans the past two years are simply more fixated on the bad, so that they don't appreciate the good; that's all I'm saying.
Posted by lsudaboss
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2010
843 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 6:02 pm to
All you oregon fans need to worry about getting your asses handled by AU!!! So go talk shite in your own threads because when you play auburn you will wish you had a coner like peterson!!! Why are you even here talking shite anyways go play in your weak arse conference!!!!
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78963 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 6:06 pm to
I want all you fricking morons bashing Peterson to realize 1 thing about your argument

you idiots are picking out a handful of plays to criticize Peterson and use as your "he didnt play well" ammo.

A fade route by Maze, the Arkansas play, the few catches by Jones? What about the hundreds of other plays that he dominated?

But no, go ahead and focus on the negative plays as your basis for judging his 2010...

And let me address Mathieu while I'm at it. Tyrann Mathieu had an excellent year and will be an amazing player. However, Mathieu's job was to run around like his hair was on fire and make plays. That was his job and he did it very well. Answer me this, if the roles were reversed, could Mathieu consistently go 1 on 1 with the opponents best WR all game long, all year long? Also, could Peterson play free lance mad man like Mathieu?
This post was edited on 12/8/10 at 6:10 pm
Posted by The Future
Smallville, KS
Member since Oct 2009
22661 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 6:08 pm to
Lolwut?

TM as in Tyrann Mathieu?
Posted by NJ El Tigre
New Jersey
Member since Oct 2010
1319 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 6:09 pm to
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Yeah, Julio Jones had a decent game. 1 game! We had no pass rush all year. Do you know how hard it is to cover when you cant generate a pass rush?

tied for 3rd in the SEC in sacks? no pass rush? c'mon man

LINK


Let it be known that i'm not hating on PP. I'm just stating that he may not have had as good a year as everyone thinks. I understand that the jiz you guys were spewing could have got in the way with you guys watching the game.


also. i'm not an oregon fan. i go to LSU. just have the oregon logo to show that i want auburn to lose
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78963 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 6:13 pm to
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tied for 3rd in the SEC in sacks? no pass rush? c'mon man


16 of those 32 sacks came in the first 5 games of the year with Sam Montgomery

so no, we didnt have much of a pass rush in the 2nd half of the season, the real games
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288690 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 6:16 pm to
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tied for 3rd in the SEC in sacks? no pass rush? c'mon man



When i say "pass rush", i mean our ability to rush the passer without blitzing.

most of our sacks came on blitzes by LBS and DBs

Which speaks more to our ability and trust the coaches have in the Dbs.


our DL was dreadful outside of Nevis in getting to the QB. Especially after Montgomery went down.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38001 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 6:19 pm to
much like Dorsey, he was very hyped at th ebeginning of the season. Not saying the hype was not justified, but that is why.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288690 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 6:19 pm to
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16 of those 32 sacks came in the first 5 games of the year with Sam Montgomery



exactly, we had little natural pass rush.

22.5 of our 32 sacks came from LBs/DBs/Nevis. Thats 70%


Nevis accounted for 6 sacks. 16.5 of our other sacks were results of blitzing.


In other words, our coaches trust PP and Co. enough to take players out of coverage to blitz.
Posted by Skooter
Member since Jun 2008
2257 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 6:45 pm to
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Gekko


you sir, are a special brand of idiot. and that's saying something on the rant.
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18886 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 6:49 pm to
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you sir, are a special brand of idiot. and that's saying something on the rant.

Agreed. I can understand saying you were disappointed because he didn't get as many picks or punt returns, but this guy is talking about PP as if he was Jason David or something. It really is funny reading everything he has to say.
Posted by Gekko
Costa Rica
Member since Nov 2010
2548 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 7:07 pm to
Once all you come up for air out of PP's lap for a second, you can hear me out.

PP is an amazing athlete. As one guy pointed out, I do not have half of the athletic ability that PP has, nor does anyone else that has posted in this thread. PP is a great lock down corner, and a great open field tackler.

I feel that the second half of the season, he turned down the knob on his game a bit. He wasn't as electrifying on Punt returns, he was caught out of position, and he missed some very easy tackles. I truly feel like he was playing not to get hurt. Whenever there was a pile up, he was not jumping in, or trying to push the file back as other players were.

After the WVU, PP entered the NFL draft as far as I am concerned. And the amazing thing is, he was still one of the best in CFB at the CB position. He just simply did not play to HIS utmost potential.
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 7:24 pm to
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All you oregon fans need to worry about getting your asses handled by AU!!! So go talk shite in your own threads because when you play auburn you will wish you had a coner like peterson!!! Why are you even here talking shite anyways go play in your weak arse conference!!!!



Dear god, I hope you are joking.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78345 posts
Posted on 12/8/10 at 7:48 pm to
People who think hamilton's td were PP fault need to stop listening taking everything the announcers say as gospel. One he made a move to another man and Hatcher didn't pick up his guy, and took a week angle. and the other people expect him to be able to change body direction and tackle a man with a blocked in a completely open field after Hatcher takes out the guy covering him?

Also cannot take away how good of a returner he is.
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