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re: So if LSU has a great year this year...
Posted on 7/2/10 at 9:32 pm to peopleschamp
Posted on 7/2/10 at 9:32 pm to peopleschamp
quote:
Miles >>>>>> Saban (Posted on 1/8/08 at 12:09 a.m.)
comeon man.
either way
This post was edited on 7/2/10 at 9:34 pm
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Posted on 7/2/10 at 10:17 pm to noonan
Really, this argument is retarded. It's like comparing JaMarcus Russell to Drew Brees.
Posted on 7/2/10 at 11:08 pm to HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
What's the argument?
Posted on 7/3/10 at 1:51 am to lsu1208
They will say all the credit goes to Saban.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 1:52 am to Lacour
quote:
Les could win the NC next year and the year after and then finish in the top 5 for 10 straight years and I still wouldn't say he was a better coach than Nick Saban.
Wouldn't want to fire him any longer. But I will never say or think he is better or as good as Nick.
Yea, sure kid, whatever you say Posted on 7/3/10 at 1:56 am to Lacour
Slurp slurp...just a second coach Saban
Ok coach Saban, sorry for the interuption....slurp slurp
quote:
Thus my point is, I will never think Les is better than Nick, no matter how many games he may win going forward.
Ok coach Saban, sorry for the interuption....slurp slurp
Posted on 7/3/10 at 2:04 am to Lloyd Christmas
quote:Who did that? The only person I ever made that comment regarding was someone who admitted that reality and facts could not possibly influence his conviction that Saban is (and always will be) a better coach than Miles. If you find it funny that someone would describe that as "irrational", you really need to go look up the word "irrational" again.
i just think its funny that posi-tigers accuse people who think Saban did a good job here of an irrational emotional attachment to Saban
quote:Really? It really seems funny to you that some people who love LSU football are more inclined to have an irrational emotional attachment to the LSU Football Head Coach than to the Alabama Football Head Coach?
when they defiantly defend Miles the same way or more so
Maybe there's humor in there, but I just don't see it. For the most part, I expect fans of a particular team to be more likely to have an emotional attachment to that team than to others.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 2:05 am to Lloyd Christmas
quote:That is because you (unlike Lacour) are involving reason and reality in your assessment.
I want to see it happen before I put him anywhere near Saban level
Posted on 7/3/10 at 2:13 am to mtnhighTiger
quote:I presume you are suggesting that Lacour is feigning excessive irrational devotion to Saban as a sarcastic ploy to annoy those who view him as simply a past successful coach and current success rival coach. Setting aside for the moment why one would find humor in annoying people with that entirely rational perspective, I wonder what experience you've had with Lacour that suggests to you that this is the case. I don't keep records of particular posters history, and I was barely visiting the board for a while, but I don't actually recall anything from him that suggests the requisite intelligence, grasp of the sport, or mental or emotional stability to realize the irrational idiocy of the position he is taking in this thread. He seems every bit as "special" as all the others who have taken that same position in the past in all seriousness. So until he shows some capacity to have recognized the folly in it, I see no reason to suspect he does not genuinely believe that no amount of evidence or reality could convince him that Miles is a better coach than Saban, even if Saban went 0-24 and got fired, never to coach football again while Miles went 140-0 winning 10 straight national championships.
Throw a little more cayenne on there....I don't think you've stirred it up enough yet.
Can you show anything from Lacour's posting history to suggest he's not stupid enough to believe that?
Posted on 7/3/10 at 2:18 am to peopleschamp
quote:Really? Then why is it these people do not respond as if Miles has been attacked until someone comes along dumb enough to believe that no amount of evidence could ever convince them that Miles is better than Saban? If you do not believe that the claim that 10 National Championships for Miles would not earn him enough credit to be rated above Saban is not plausibly viewable as a bash of Miles, then perhaps you could explain how it clearly isn't a bash of Miles?
When I make this point in giving credit to Saban people automatically assume you are attacking Miles
Posted on 7/3/10 at 7:22 am to King Joey
I TOLD YOU NOT TO TALK ABOUT ME LIKE I'M NOT HERE 
KING JOEY - Watch it.
I know people.
Saban's one of them.
KING JOEY - Watch it.
I know people.
Saban's one of them.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 7:35 am to lsu1208
quote:
If they do, then they'll have to admit that Les Miles is really a good coach but was just surrounded by the wrong staff...
Who hand picked that "Wrong Staff" ?
Posted on 7/3/10 at 7:57 am to Lacour
quote:Intellectually, you're not. Sorry, but until you show some capacity for rational or intelligent expression, I've already responded to what you have to say.
I TOLD YOU NOT TO TALK ABOUT ME LIKE I'M NOT HERE
The only meaningful topic involving you at this point is way above your comprehension. So there's no need to include you in its discussion.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 9:09 am to King Joey
After reading the pages I think Nuts made the most sense out of everyone.
And King Joey, you keep throwing the words "irrational" and "emotional" around like you're in the third grade and just learned them on the past week's spelling quiz.
Come on man, what makes you so qualified to determine what's rational? Because somebody else doesn't fall on your side of the argument? That's juvenile.
What kills be about the whole thing is that the entire rest of the sports world looks at Miles as a blumbering idiot that is consistently under-achieving with the talent he has and the ability to hire great assistants. But he squanders everything away like a crackhead on payday. And the WHOLE REST OF THE SPORTS WORLD knows this, writes about it, talks about it on tv, etc.
And then you have the Miles supporters (who are only LSU fans by the way,) sitting back and defending him like the over protective enabling mother >> "I know my son has had 4 dwi's but I swear this time he's learned his lesson and he is not an alcoholic! Just look what he did three years ago!"
Speaking of irrational...
And King Joey, you keep throwing the words "irrational" and "emotional" around like you're in the third grade and just learned them on the past week's spelling quiz.
Come on man, what makes you so qualified to determine what's rational? Because somebody else doesn't fall on your side of the argument? That's juvenile.
What kills be about the whole thing is that the entire rest of the sports world looks at Miles as a blumbering idiot that is consistently under-achieving with the talent he has and the ability to hire great assistants. But he squanders everything away like a crackhead on payday. And the WHOLE REST OF THE SPORTS WORLD knows this, writes about it, talks about it on tv, etc.
And then you have the Miles supporters (who are only LSU fans by the way,) sitting back and defending him like the over protective enabling mother >> "I know my son has had 4 dwi's but I swear this time he's learned his lesson and he is not an alcoholic! Just look what he did three years ago!"
Speaking of irrational...
This post was edited on 7/3/10 at 9:15 am
Posted on 7/3/10 at 9:20 am to RealityTiger
quote:Are you seriously suggesting that there might be some debate over whether Lacour's assertion that no amount of evidence or reality could ever possibly change his opinion that Saban is a better coach than Miles is irrational?
Come on man, what makes you so qualified to determine what's rational? Because somebody else doesn't fall on your side of the argument?
quote:And what part of a crackhead's payday reflects Miles' National Championship, 77.3% winning clip, consistently highly rated recruiting classes, etc.? I don't know that many crackheads, so I'm unfamiliar with their tendency to achieve pinnacles of their profession and record high levels of success.
But he squanders everything away like a crackhead on payday.
quote:And this suggests to you that it must be correct? I wonder if you ever bothered to check out the final score of the '06 Rose Bowl . . .
And the WHOLE REST OF THE SPORTS WORLD knows this, writes about it, talks about it on tv, etc.
But I have the same question for you that I've had for many others of your ilk. Simply this: is there any set of objective measurable criteria that could agree would prove to you that the opinion you have of Miles right now is wrong now? If so, would you be willing to share them?
Posted on 7/3/10 at 9:29 am to RealityTiger
quote:
And then you have the Miles supporters (who are only LSU fans by the way,) sitting back and defending him like the over protective enabling mother >> "I know my son has had 4 dwi's but I swear this time he's learned his lesson and he is not an alcoholic! Just look what he did three years ago!"
So true. The almighty 51-15(77%) argument.
If he went 6-6 next year it would be 57-21(73%), and they would have the same argument.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 9:39 am to RealityTiger
quote:
What kills be about the whole thing is that the entire rest of the sports world looks at Miles as a blumbering idiot that is consistently under-achieving with the talent he has and the ability to hire great assistants. But he squanders everything away like a crackhead on payday. And the WHOLE REST OF THE SPORTS WORLD knows this, writes about it, talks about it on tv, etc.
bullshite. 900 miles deep bullshite. The "whole rest of the sportsworld" doesn't "know this" write or talk about it. It is a phenomenon of the rant. The only other person who gets into Mile bashing like the zeros on this board is Paul Finebaum. What's more funny is he could be a regular on here the way he bashes everything about Miles and talks about Saban like little Nicky is his gay lover.
Posted on 7/3/10 at 9:47 am to TGFN57
quote:
bullshite. 900 miles deep bullshite
Ok...
Keep holding your hands over your ears and go, "LaLaLaLaLa".
Because afterall, let's face it. ESPN hates us, Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson hates us, Paul Finebaum hates us, and College Football News hates us. They all have some sort of personal agenda against LSU.
This post was edited on 7/3/10 at 9:50 am
Posted on 7/3/10 at 9:56 am to King Joey
quote:
Are you seriously suggesting that there might be some debate over whether Lacour's assertion that no amount of evidence or reality could ever possibly change his opinion that Saban is a better coach than Miles is irrational
What the...? That question is just worded weird. I'm not debating Lacour's opinion. I'm saying that Miles will never be as good a coach as Saban is.
quote:
I wonder if you ever bothered to check out the final score of the '06 Rose Bowl
I watched the whole thing start to finish but what the hell does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
Posted on 7/3/10 at 10:16 am to RealityTiger
quote:
Because afterall, let's face it. ESPN hates us, Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson hates us, Paul Finebaum hates us, and College Football News hates us. They all have some sort of personal agenda against LSU.
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