- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
1
Posted on 7/2/12 at 4:35 pm to Elleshoe
quote:Officially, they were not allowed prior to 1992, but Eastern Bloc nations flouted the rules of amateurism. It was a charade. After the 1988 Olympics, the IOC decided to address the Western nations' grievances about this charade and level the playing field by discarding their outdated "amateurism" policy that was full of loopholes.
so what you're saying is professionals were allowed before 1992?
Posted on 7/2/12 at 4:59 pm to Elleshoe
quote:lol, i keep waiting for trackfan to just start saying "i am the walrus" over and over again from the edge of the conversation.
you're out of your element here. everyone knew those guys were professionals.
Posted on 7/2/12 at 6:24 pm to nicholastiger
quote:I didn't see that. You sure? She was pretty darned close to her personal best (22.34 vs 22.24), so she ran well. Just that Allyson Felix happened to blow away her personal best and Richards-Ross was going to make the cut. It was pretty close. I think her only competition in a couple of years will be Felix.
She was the #2 at 200 meters in the world so it's kind of shocking that she did not make it to Olympics
Posted on 7/2/12 at 7:07 pm to trackfan
quote:
Officially? NHL players were banned from the Olympics back then.
Posted on 7/2/12 at 7:54 pm to clamdip
quote:quote:didn't see that. You sure? She was pretty darned close to her personal best (22.34 vs 22.24), so she ran well. Just that Allyson Felix happened to blow away her personal best and Richards-Ross was going to make the cut. It was pretty close. I think her only competition in a couple of years will be Felix.
She was the #2 at 200 meters in the world so it's kind of shocking that she did not make it to OlympicsI
Duncan just picked a bad day to bring her "B" game to the track. Normally, Duncan's "B" game would be enough to handle not only college girls, but most pro women also. But Felix, Jeter and Richards aren't ordinary pro women. Felix is the three-time 200 world champion, and two-time Olympic 200 silver medalist. Jeter is the reigning 100 world champion and the second fastest women ever behind Flo-Jo. Richards is the American 400 record holder and has won the Athlete-of-the-Year award (track & field's MVP) twice. Felix brought her "A+" game to the track. She ran the race of her life and even surprised herself. Jeter brought her "A" game and ran a huge PR. Richards brought her "A-" game which wasn't far off her PR. Duncan's "B" game just won't suffice when she's competing against the "A" games of the likes of Felix, Jeter and Richards.
By the way, Duncan's PR isn't 22.24. Her fastest time are:
22.12w
22.18w
22.19
22.22
Posted on 7/2/12 at 8:32 pm to nicholastiger
quote:
She was the #2 at 200 meters in the world so it's kind of shocking that she did not make it to Olympics
The U.S. is loaded in the sprint races. She did good finishing fourth. Which means she isooo an alternate and probably will run on the relay team. Fexlix, Ross, and Jeter are all elite 200m runners and all have a shot at winning gold.
Posted on 7/2/12 at 9:07 pm to iluvredboxx
quote:
Since Kimberly Duncan missed olympic cut....
Is she eligible to return for her senior campaign? Or did she burn her eligibility by trying to qualify?
Wow...
Posted on 7/3/12 at 9:18 am to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
quote:
The U.S. is loaded in the sprint races. She did good finishing fourth. Which means she isooo an alternate and probably will run on the relay team. Fexlix, Ross, and Jeter are all elite 200m runners and all have a shot at winning gold.
I disagree with this. Only Felix is a more accomplished 200 runner than Duncan. Jeter and Richards are older and more seasoned than Duncan, but neither of them can match Duncan's 200 resume over the last couple of years.
Posted on 7/3/12 at 10:56 am to trackfan
Duncan has a great resume, but all those women are world class sprinters with tons of experience. They all dominated college just as Duncan is doing now, and they have also dominated on the pro level as well.
Posted on 7/3/12 at 12:06 pm to trackfan
quote:well said.
Felix brought her "A+" game to the track. She ran the race of her life and even surprised herself. Jeter brought her "A" game and ran a huge PR. Richards brought her "A-" game which wasn't far off her PR. Duncan's "B" game just won't suffice when she's competing against the "A" games of the likes of Felix, Jeter and Richards.
and, yeah, i forgot about her 22.19, which is her official personal best if you ignore anything wind- or altitude-aided, I think.
when do they sort out who is on the relays?
Posted on 7/3/12 at 12:14 pm to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
quote:
Duncan has a great resume, but all those women are world class sprinters with tons of experience
I agree with this as I said in my previous post.
quote:
They all dominated college just as Duncan is doing now, and they have also dominated on the pro level as well.
Wrong, wrong, wrong!
Felix has been the most dominant 200 runner in the world for the last seven years, but she never went to college, she went straight from high school to the pros. When she was 18, after what would have been her freshman year in college, she won an Olympic silver medal in the 200. The difference then was that the women's 200 was a lot thinner then than it is now, both nationally and internationally. However, she proved that while a ton of pro experience is beneficial, it's not a prerequisite for international success in track and field. Similarly, Jeremy Wariner won an Olympics gold medal after his sophomore year and Karani James won a world championship title after his freshman year.
Richards was dominant in college, but it was in the 400, not the 200. As a pro, she's dominated the 400, but she's only dabbled in the 200 throughout her pro career, and had never ran it at the Olympic Trials before. Also, keep in mind that up until a month ago, her PR was slower than Duncan's.
When Jeter was in college, she was an average runner at a division 2 school, and never won an NCAA title, despite the inferior competition. Even after college, she continued to be perform at a very mediocre level until her late 20's. When she was 25 in 2004, her 100 PR was 11.56, and by age 27 in 2006, she improved it to 11.48. She didn't run sub-23 in the 200 until she was 28 when she ran 22.82 in 2007, which wouldn't be good enough to win the SEC championship in most years. As Jeter approached 30 years old, her 100 times began to drop like a rock, while her physique changed drastically as well, but she still didn't distinguish herself in the 200 until very recently. Keep in my mind, that before the OT 200 final on Saturday, her PR was still slower than Duncan's despite being 32 years old.
The women's OT 200 final was statistically the deepest in Olympic Trials history, and the Olympics final in London will likely be less competetive than what we witnessed Saturday. If Veronica Campbell brings her B game to the Olympics, don't be surprised if the US sweeps this event.
Posted on 7/3/12 at 1:24 pm to trackfan
We get it trackfan, you watch more track than anyone else. 
Posted on 7/3/12 at 3:33 pm to clamdip
quote:
when do they sort out who is on the relays?
The buck stops with Jon Drummond, USATF's relay dictator.
Page 2 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News