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re: Simplified Offense

Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:41 pm to
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It's really sad that a Junior cannot understand the offense. But you look at JJ's face when he gets the play call and confusion still persists. He really is one of the most unintelligent football players I've seen with his amount of athletic ability.


Really, then why is JL not starting since according to you JJ is too dumb and stupid to understand Crowton’s incredibly sophisticated offense? I mean when you look at Crowton’s track record at the Chicago Bears, at BYU, at Oregon, and now at LSU, it appears that no one was able to master his incredibly sophisticated offense, but according to you JJ is too dumb, even though he is starting over JL. Buddy, I don’t know who you are, but you are obviously one of the dumbest posters to ever grace this board.

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Decent High School QBs can call out basic blitz packages. Jefferson lacks the simple ability to even audible out of that. Tell me how many times Jefferson audibles to a passing play in a given game. It's really sad.


Dude after reading your incredibly unhinged garbage above it is obvious that not only are you completely mentally deficient, but it is more than obvious that you don’t know your arse from a hole in the ground.
Posted by cigtyme
Houma, La
Member since Nov 2007
946 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:42 pm to
So you are comparing R Davey and J Russell to Jarret Lee?? Not even close!
Posted by jackson123
Dallas
Member since Jul 2010
1550 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:43 pm to
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Dude after reading your incredibly unhinged garbage above it is obvious that not only are you completely mentally deficient, but it is more than obvious that you don’t know your arse from a hole in the ground.


So you couldn't quote a number, so you just decided to go with personal insults. Proves my point right there. The number is so few and far between, you can't respond with maybe more than 2 examples.
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:43 pm to
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We got the ball at midfield or better half the time!! GEEZ
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Except that Jefferson did move the offense in the MSU game.

Jefferson moved the team into scoring position on five out of six drives including two drives of 50+ yards.
Facts that oppose your viewpoint just suck, don't they.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:44 pm to
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And that's the level Jefferson is getting close to..


No dumb frick but you can't knock the kid for something the best in the game do too.
Posted by jackson123
Dallas
Member since Jul 2010
1550 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:44 pm to
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So you are comparing R Davey and J Russell to Jarret Lee?? Not even close!


No I'm not. I am more focusing on the fact that there are options available and there seems to be this reason that people hold on to JJ. He has done nothing to show he is a championship (keyword here) caliber QB.
Posted by jackson123
Dallas
Member since Jul 2010
1550 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:45 pm to
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No dumb frick but you can't knock the kid for something the best in the game do too.


I didn't. Read who posted it. Not me.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48849 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:45 pm to
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Brett Favre & Peyton Manning do this shite all the time
Heres the flaw in that statement.
Brett Favre does the jump pass fake to cover that and both he and Peyton are superior throwing QB's.
So to even compare those QB's with my statement doesnt answer my question....
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:46 pm to
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I feel like the same people who support JJ, are the same ones who supported Randall and Booty.
Feelers feel; thinkers think.

Stop being a feeler.
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:47 pm to
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So you couldn't quote a number, so you just decided to go with personal insults


What the frick are you are talking about quote a number? And you can call it a personal insult; I call it a simple observation. If you think JJ is too stupid to master Crowton's offense, then why is JL not the starter?

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The number is so few and far between, you can't respond with maybe more than 2 examples.


And I still don’t know what the frick you are talking about!
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:47 pm to
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And that's the level Jefferson is getting close to..
No dumb frick but you can't knock the kid for something the best in the game do too.
There's a reason why the best in the game do that. It gives the RB a chance to to read and react.
Posted by cigtyme
Houma, La
Member since Nov 2007
946 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:48 pm to
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So when he's bad again (which will be soon)I'll be looking to you for some great insight.


By your take J Lee when called upon will throw pick sixes and i would love for some of your insight. Look i support both of these young men.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48849 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:50 pm to
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So you are comparing R Davey and J Russell to Jarret Lee?? Not even close!
Really? I think Jarrett Lee was thrown into a bad situation and performed as a freshman normally would.
The consequences was he lost his confidence and I think thats half the battle.
Given the right circumstances I think Lee could make an excellent QB and may in the future...
If he does lets revisit your post and see if your thinking has changed....
I have seen moments of greatness in Lee but also moments of a train wreck...I think under the right coach Lee could be successful in the SEC...
Posted by jackson123
Dallas
Member since Jul 2010
1550 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:51 pm to
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And I still don’t know what the frick you are talking about!


Then maybe you should read before start ranting and raving. I was talking about how few times in the past 3 seasons, Jordan Jefferson audibles when the defense is showing something. He very rarely does that. That's football IQ.

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then why is JL not the starter?


Your guess is as good as mine. But if people think Jefferson can improve, then you have to have the same mentality about Lee.
Posted by mt1
LV
Member since Nov 2006
7663 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:54 pm to
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If you think JJ is too stupid to master Crowton's offense, then why is JL not the starter?


But you have already established that Crowton doesn't know what he is doing. Maybe he and Miles can't evaluate players either.

Our offensive production sucks. It is either the qb or the coaches. Pick one and stick with it.
Posted by Flamefighter
Center Field
Member since Dec 2007
7629 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:55 pm to
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Really, then why is JL not starting since according to you JJ is too dumb and stupid to understand Crowton’s incredibly sophisticated offense? I mean when you look at Crowton’s track record at the Chicago Bears, at BYU, at Oregon, and now at LSU, it appears that no one was able to master his incredibly sophisticated offense,


Really? What about LaTech? Rattay and Edwards. He had two players and had the best offense in the nation!.

I'm not saying JL is the answer either. My point is the coaching staff needs to do a better job at recruiting a QB who can run the system!!!!
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:57 pm to
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Then maybe you should read before start ranting and raving. I was talking about how few times in the past 3 seasons, Jordan Jefferson audibles when the defense is showing something. He very rarely does that. That's football IQ.


Do you have any idea how little this goes on in college football? Put the playstation controller down and come back down to Earth.
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:58 pm to
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My problem with that is the defense will have little trouble recognizing what is play is being called giving the play less chance of being successful.


That’s assuming that Crowton’s offense isn’t too overly sophisticated to begin with, and if it is not, then what explains its repeated failures starting at Chicago, then BYU, Oregon, and now at LSU? If Crowton’s offense is too sophisticated to be understood and mastered by ordinary human beings in the prime of life, then that tells me that Crowton’s sophisticated offense isn’t worth a shite, as it is only worth a shite if it can be mastered and if it is effective, but all the evidence proves otherwise.

Moreover, if JJ is too stupid to master Crowton’s sophisticated offense, then why is he the starter instead of JL? Obviously it’s because he has done a better job of mastering Crowton’s sophisticated offense.

However, the problem with the offense is that Crowton’s play calling has been ultra conservative. This offense will never get untracked unless Crowton had the courage to call the plays, and if he doesn’t have the balls to call the plays, then someone else need to be designated to call the plays.
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9798 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 12:59 pm to
If we "simplify" it even more we'll be running the triple option like GT. Just put one WR out there and run the rest of the time.
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 1:05 pm to
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Then maybe you should read before start ranting and raving. I was talking about how few times in the past 3 seasons, Jordan Jefferson audibles when the defense is showing something. He very rarely does that. That's football IQ.


He does all the time and if you knew your arse from a hole in the ground, you would know it too!

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Your guess is as good as mine.


Yeah...it must be some sort of conspiracy! The coaches are out to get him!

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But if people think Jefferson can improve, then you have to have the same mentality about Lee.


According to Miles, JL has improved immensely since last season and if JJ was still the same QB he was last season, JL would be the starter.
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