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re: Simple vote...Lee or Jefferson
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:22 pm to PiscesTiger
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:22 pm to PiscesTiger
I think we are in for a long season either way.
I don't hold mistakes made Lee's freshman year against him when he was thrown to the wolves.
With that said I am willing to give The General a shot at redemption.
I don't hold mistakes made Lee's freshman year against him when he was thrown to the wolves.
With that said I am willing to give The General a shot at redemption.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:24 pm to HooDooWitch
Remember La. Tech last year? I'll take 2008 Lee over what I saw from 2009 Lee. He couldn't complete passes against a terrible La. Tech D that missing most of its secondary.
Jefferson is the man.
Jefferson is the man.
This post was edited on 7/7/10 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:26 pm to Boh
Proof to end all discussion that JL should not start. 2008 numbers on Lee 2009 numbers on JJ and Mcelroy from bama
Yds TD's Ints
JL 1873 14 16
JJ 2166 17 7
JM 2508 17 4
we had a crappy year from the QB position last year. I know Alabama's RB won the Heisman but still look at the difference between these qb numbers
Yds TD's Ints
JL 1873 14 16
JJ 2166 17 7
JM 2508 17 4
we had a crappy year from the QB position last year. I know Alabama's RB won the Heisman but still look at the difference between these qb numbers
This post was edited on 7/7/10 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:26 pm to Boh
quote:
our offense didn't control anything in '09 except for Auburn maybe
JJ rarely made huge mistatkes, thats what I want
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:27 pm to More beer please
quote:which games? Auburn was the only one i remember. I remember having a defensive stop at the goal line against miss st for us to win. with us scoring a td on defense and one on special teams, our offense was horrendous that game and that was against a mediocre miss st team in the middle of the season.
At least with JJ there were games where he did not make any huge mistakes and our O controlled the game
La tech was after the bama game, which was basically the end of the season bc it clinched the sec west, nobody on the team showed up to play against tech
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:28 pm to More beer please
quote:
Lee. Jefferson doesn"t have the smarts it takes to call a play more complicated than "22 right"...
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:29 pm to cigtyme
quote:
Proof to end all discussion that JL should not start
no i think i'll keep thinking on my own... thanks though.
tell me what Lee and Jefferson's records are as starters in the last 2 years and i'll listen to why JJ is so much better than Lee. i have no problem with JJ starting, but if it's anything like last year, i want Lee in
... and what the frick does McElroy have to do w this?
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:29 pm to Boh
quote:
ya think? that's not the point here, though. he was making it seem like JJ didn't look bad at all last year... and that is false.
I miss understood the point you were making. I though you were saying that somehow JJ's play against Florida= Lee's play against La Tech. As if the competition was equal.
On to what you're saying. I'll agree that Lee looked better against Florida in '08 than JJ did in '09, but I don't think we'll see that Lee again. He lacks confidence and I think to a certain extent the team would be nervous with him out there, whether its deserved or not. We'll see what JJ looks like this year, he's getting plenty of time to prove himself. Hopefully with a run game, he can be more consistent.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:29 pm to PiscesTiger
it's an oversimplification, but my gut instinct tells me that i would rather lee get first shot as starter when 2-a-days begin, rather than jefferson. lee seems to have more upside, and i want lsu to play for championships, not to have as a team goal the overriding desire to not want to look bad.
that said, whomever wins the job in August wins the job in August. i definitely think it's possible that jefferson could emerge as the better guy for the job by the time the season opener against UNC rolls around.

that said, whomever wins the job in August wins the job in August. i definitely think it's possible that jefferson could emerge as the better guy for the job by the time the season opener against UNC rolls around.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:31 pm to TruLsu
quote:
La tech was after the bama game, which was basically the end of the season bc it clinched the sec west, nobody on the team showed up to play against tech
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:32 pm to Boh
quote:
i'll listen to why JJ is so much better than Lee
JJ is not so much better than JL, its the better of two evils, you know that.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:35 pm to More beer please
quote:jesus christ all you have done is say how shitty he was. i never made a single fricking excuse for 2008 all i said was against La Tech the whole team came out flat.
Any more excuses more JL shitty play?
Whats JJ's excuse then against miss st for not scoring more points than miss st on offense?
whats JJ's excuse for not getting in the end zone at home against florida?
whats JJ's excuse for leading the #112 offense in the nation?
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:35 pm to More beer please
quote:wish i wouldve read this before said last post
JJ is not so much better than JL, its the better of two evils, you know that.
ill agree with you, but i believe Lee has more of an upside and a better chance to lead us to a championship. but he has the chance to make mistakes
I believe JJ will be consistent and not make any mistakes but i dont see him leading us to anything
This post was edited on 7/7/10 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:36 pm to Boh
2009 LSU Football Final Statistics (9-4, 5-3 SEC)
So JJ won 8 lost 4
JL won 1 lost 0
2008 LSU Football Final Statistics (8-5, 3-5 SEC)
JL won 7 lost 4
JJ won 1 lost 1
So JJ won 9 lost 5
and JL won 8 lost 4
So JJ won 8 lost 4
JL won 1 lost 0
2008 LSU Football Final Statistics (8-5, 3-5 SEC)
JL won 7 lost 4
JJ won 1 lost 1
So JJ won 9 lost 5
and JL won 8 lost 4
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:37 pm to TruLsu
quote:
jesus christ all you have done is say how shitty he was
No, I simply said he was shitty against a depleated La tech and you blamed it on our team giving up.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:39 pm to More beer please
quote:yes he was shitty against La tech. Like i said, nobody on the team showed up against them. Nobody, the whole team was flat.
No, I simply said he was shitty against a depleated La tech and you blamed it on our team giving up.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:39 pm to More beer please
We did not give up.
Lee gave up on himself when he was no longer starter. Positions like QB have a lot of ego that come with them and when a young fragile mind is tormented by the memory of 08 i do not think he can ever play at a high level again.
Lee gave up on himself when he was no longer starter. Positions like QB have a lot of ego that come with them and when a young fragile mind is tormented by the memory of 08 i do not think he can ever play at a high level again.
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