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re: Simple vote...Lee or Jefferson
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:02 pm to More beer please
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:02 pm to More beer please
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I just want our offense to control the game, score when needed
the offense with Jefferson at the helm did not look capable of this. we did score some points in the 4th quarter, but did you consistently feel like we were in control of the game?
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I dont want to give away points to the the other team.
neither do i. but saying that all Lee can do is throw pick sixes is like saying the offense will look exactly the same this year as it did last year (112th). i definitely think the offense should improve, just as i think Lee could get better if he's the starter for more than one random week during the year
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Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:03 pm to More beer please
quote:never said he didnt but he moved the chains and scored points all 2008. we were ranked top 50 in offense and it was exciting to watch
More beer please
in 2009 we won games because of no turnovers and a defense that was 2 to 3 times better than 2008.
to me in 2008 (yes i got pissed about the INTs) but it was exciting watching our offense
in 2009 i hated watching our offense and our 1-2 effective drives per game
just my opinion though
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:04 pm to PiscesTiger
Lee
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:07 pm to Walt OReilly
Jefferson. Were gonna be movin on up!
No but seriously all of you quit being ridiculous, Jefferson every day of the week.
No but seriously all of you quit being ridiculous, Jefferson every day of the week.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:08 pm to Boh
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but did you consistently feel like we were in control of the game?
I never felt like we were going to give the game away when JJ was in. When Lee was in, I cringed every time he dropped back to throw the ball because you never knew who he was throwing it to.
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just as i think Lee could get better if he's the starter for more than one random week during the year
Lee was the starter in 08 and got worse in 09.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:10 pm to WM88
2008 stats
PASSING GP-GS Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yards TD Long Avg/G
Jarrett Lee 11-8 116.9 143-269-16 53.2 1873 14 66 170.3
Jo. Jefferson 7-2 112.9 36-73-1 49.3 419 4 41 59.9
2009 stats
PASSING GP-GS Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yards TD Long Avg/G
Jo. Jefferson 12-12 137.2 182-296-7 61.5 2166 17 58 180.5
Jarrett Lee 7-1 92.9 16-40-1 40.0 197 2 38 28.1
Lets see a 16/14 int/TD ratio in 08
and a 7/17 in 09
Lee sucks just deal with it
Wow look at G Mcelroy stats
YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2009 198 325 2508 60.9 7.72 80 17 4 18 140.55
So lets look at the numbers
Yds TD's Ints
JL 1873 14 16
JJ 2166 17 7
JM 2508 17 4
PASSING GP-GS Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yards TD Long Avg/G
Jarrett Lee 11-8 116.9 143-269-16 53.2 1873 14 66 170.3
Jo. Jefferson 7-2 112.9 36-73-1 49.3 419 4 41 59.9
2009 stats
PASSING GP-GS Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yards TD Long Avg/G
Jo. Jefferson 12-12 137.2 182-296-7 61.5 2166 17 58 180.5
Jarrett Lee 7-1 92.9 16-40-1 40.0 197 2 38 28.1
Lets see a 16/14 int/TD ratio in 08
and a 7/17 in 09
Lee sucks just deal with it
Wow look at G Mcelroy stats
YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2009 198 325 2508 60.9 7.72 80 17 4 18 140.55
So lets look at the numbers
Yds TD's Ints
JL 1873 14 16
JJ 2166 17 7
JM 2508 17 4
This post was edited on 7/7/10 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:11 pm to Boh
how could anyone seriously want lee to start another game after what he did against la tech 
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:12 pm to TruLsu
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. we were ranked top 50 in offense and it was exciting to watch
I dont support the tigers bc its "fun to watch", I want to win and Im sure they put the guys out there that give us the best shot to win, not entertain.
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in 2009 we won games because of no turnovers and a defense that was 2 to 3 times better than 2008
Exactly so why not stick with the same formula? Our d with another year under Chavis and JJ having a good amount of experience and actually being healthy. Plus the young talent that will be added. Why go back to turnover city?
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in 2008 i hated watching our offense and our 1-2 picks per game, plus a random pick 6 thrown in
See how that works?
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:13 pm to More beer please
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I never felt like we were going to give the game away when JJ was in
i never felt like the team was in control and could put a game away without depending on defense
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Lee was the starter in 08 and got worse in 09.
didn't start until after the Auburn game. La Tech was terrible... but don't ignore the terrible stuff Jefferson did last year. i honestly don't think he improved from Washington to Arkansas
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:14 pm to sunnydaze
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how could anyone seriously want lee to start another game after what he did against la tech
how can you want Jefferson to touch the ball every snap? did you watch our offense last year?
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:16 pm to Boh
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i never felt like the team was in control and could put a game away without depending on defense
In 08 we could never put a team away either becuase we would freely give them points without them even being on offense
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i honestly don't think Lee improved from 08 to 09
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La Tech was terrible... but don't ignore the terrible stuff Jefferson did last year.
JJ never had a game as bad as JL's Tech game
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:16 pm to More beer please
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I dont support the tigers bc its "fun to watch", I want to win and Im sure they put the guys out there that give us the best shot to win, not entertain.
who the frick doesn't want to win? we all want us to win. i'm just saying that Lee's record as a starter and Jefferson's record as a starter can't differ by much, can it? if there's no difference in W/L, i want to watch a Lee offense
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:16 pm to More beer please
Jefferson or Lee Lee is Turrible Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:16 pm to PiscesTiger
Lee
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:17 pm to More beer please
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JJ never had a game as bad as JL's Tech game
if you think the Florida game was acceptable, then i don't know what to say.
... thought you wanted to just win anyway? didn't we win against La Tech?
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:18 pm to Boh
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if you think the Florida game was acceptable, then i don't know what to say.
... thought you wanted to just win anyway? didn't we win against La Tech?
Last time I checked Florida is just a little better than La Tech.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:19 pm to Boh
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if there's no difference in W/L, i want to watch a Lee offense
I cant stand watching a Lee offense because no matter how good we play on offense he finds a way to dissappoint everyone with a pick/pick 6. At least with JJ there were games where he did not make any huge mistakes and our O controlled the game
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:19 pm to Boh
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if you think the Florida game was acceptable, then i don't know what to say.
... thought you wanted to just win anyway? didn't we win against La Tech?
You are comparing a fully healthy florida d to a injured La Tech d.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:21 pm to LSUTigerfaninHtown
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Last time I checked Florida is just a little better than La Tech.
ya think? that's not the point here, though. he was making it seem like JJ didn't look bad at all last year... and that is false.
he said he wants to just win regardless of how it looks... and we won against Tech. i'm saying that Lee looked better against Florida in '08 on the road with a worse defense than Jefferson looked at home in '09 with a better defense
Posted on 7/7/10 at 2:22 pm to More beer please
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At least with JJ there were games where he did not make any huge mistakes and our O controlled the game
our offense didn't control anything in '09 except for Auburn maybe
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