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re: Should Tommy Moffitt feel the heat?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 4:43 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 5/16/19 at 4:43 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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There are no NCAA stats on drops in college football
Dear God, you can’t be this stupid. Well maybe you can. You just told the world you are stupid
and by the way you have been stating facts that are just completely wrong. The strength and Conditioning coach doesn’t have the players most in the off season. The assistants have just as much face time when they go through X&O labs in the offseason
I never said LSU didn’t have drop issues, I said that blaming Tommy Moffitt for it was stupid
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 4:53 am
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:03 am to LSUNV
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The strength and Conditioning coach doesn’t have the players most in the off season.
The assistants have just as much face time when they go through X&O labs in the offseason
Dude. You're full of shite. (You're just too clueless about off-season workouts to know it)
S&C has the ball players pre-Spring practice, post-Spring practice, and 8 weeks in the Summer.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 6:29 am
Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:52 am to Buckeye Jeaux
I’ll ask again, what is the actual LSU regimen for WR's using jugs machines?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:15 pm to Stevo
quote:You have to break into the facility to liberate the jugs machine. Ask Odell and Jarvis
I’ll ask again, what is the actual LSU regimen for WR's using jugs machines?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 4:07 pm to Stevo
This dude doesn’t know anything about anything. He comes on here spouts random shite with no evidence to back up his claims and wants to argue with two guys that trained under Moffitt. 
Posted on 5/16/19 at 5:24 pm to LSUNV
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This dude doesn’t know anything about anything. He comes on here spouts random shite with no evidence to back up his claims and wants to argue with two guys that trained under Moffitt.
My 2 guys who trained under Moffitt (Odell and Landry) are on record and I linked to the article. They say they had to break in to get reps on the Jugs machine.
Got a link to your 2 guys? Sounds like BS to me.
Here's MY link again:
LINK
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 9:59 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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They say they had to break in to get reps on the Jugs machine
LINK
If you look at Terrance Marshall’s picture you will see the receivers in the background working with..... wait for it...... the wr coach in a summer workout.
Also if Ohio state was doing what you claim they were doing, they broke NCAA rules. They get 20 hours a week to participate in any kind of practice with coaches present, which is not to say that it must be S&C, and 8 hours a week of film review. If they were doing it everyday it was on their own with no assistance from a coach,.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:51 pm to LSUNV
quote:More of your bullshite. The OSU WRs did their Jugs reps during Winter, Spring and Summer S&C workouts. And coaches are absolutely not needed for receivers to get reps.
Also if Ohio state was doing what you claim they were doing, they broke NCAA rules.
What is needed is an S&C coach to make damn sure that the Jugs machines are unlocked and available at all times during S&C.
BTW, did you see any Jugs machines in all of those pics of Moffitt's Summer workouts? I didn't
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:00 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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And coaches are absolutely not needed for receivers to get rep
You just made my point for me
Tommy Moffitt doesn’t coach WRs and is no way responsible. Period
And it’s not BS look up offseason rules
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 2:01 am
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:02 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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What is needed is an S&C coach to make damn sure that the Jugs machines are unlocked and available at all times during S&C
The WR coach has keys, he can get off his arse and let them in just the same
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:15 am to LSUNV
quote:bullshite, and you know it. The S&C coach is in charge of all off-season workouts.
The WR coach has keys, he can get off his arse and let them in just the same
And if he is so completely out of touch with current techniques for WR's - then maybe it's time for some new blood.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 7:36 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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The S&C coach is in charge of all off-season workouts
bullshite, I played college football and the S&C coach is not in charge all off season. That’s complete fiction. The S&C coach still has to report to the head coach and give updates as well as meeting with all the other coaches during their weekly meeting. I spent time with my position coach every damn week to go over progress on training. You are now just making shite up. I thought we were having a somewhat reasonable debate until this post.
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 7:37 am
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:18 pm to LSUNV
Did you read the FIRST sentence of YOUR LINK:
The NCAA has some stupid rules. One is that football coaches can't teach football things during MOST of off-season workouts. But S&C coaches can authorize workouts that help WRs with muscle memory and reflex conditioning (such as multiple reps of catching balls from Jugs machines.)
Nice that you played some college ball - so did I. You damn sure weren't a WR, or you'd be screaming just as loud as me to get these LSU WRs their daily 100 reps!!!
And if you are a family friend of Moffitt, tell him to give up the key, because HE will absolutely be on the hot seat if the WRs are dropping extra-easy catches like they did last season and in the Spring game!!!!
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LSU football is at full tilt with summer workouts headed up by strength and conditioning coach Tommy Moffitt
The NCAA has some stupid rules. One is that football coaches can't teach football things during MOST of off-season workouts. But S&C coaches can authorize workouts that help WRs with muscle memory and reflex conditioning (such as multiple reps of catching balls from Jugs machines.)
Nice that you played some college ball - so did I. You damn sure weren't a WR, or you'd be screaming just as loud as me to get these LSU WRs their daily 100 reps!!!
And if you are a family friend of Moffitt, tell him to give up the key, because HE will absolutely be on the hot seat if the WRs are dropping extra-easy catches like they did last season and in the Spring game!!!!
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 5/17/19 at 5:25 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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One is that football coaches can't teach football things during MOST of off-season workouts
Your coach may only be present during workouts but that doesn’t mean you can’t talk with them on a weekly basis. Which most athletes do and are required. My point is this, not even Moffitt can be at every workout which is mandated by nCAA rules. At some point athletes have to be held accountable. You have stated that Odell and Landry had to break in to use the Juggs machines, that’s because the use of any school equipment during offseason can not be made a required activity otherwise it would count towards the 20 hour a week allotment.
I have grown tired of having to explain this so here is a copy of the 20 hour rule. You need to read over it thoroughly
LINK
Posted on 5/17/19 at 5:50 pm to LSUNV
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I have grown tired of having to explain this so here is a copy of the 20 hour rule. You need to read over it thoroughly
I know the 20 hour rule quite well. And, 100 reps on a Jugs can be easily accomplished in 2 1/2 hours per week per WR with enough machines.
Or, if the machines are out and available, the WRs can run the reps voluntarily, which counts zero hours against the 20-hour rule.
Tell your pal Tommy to call Mickey Marotti at Ohio State (S&C coach & asst AD). Mickey figured out how to get his WRs 100 reps a day.
BTW, Maybe LSU can bring Mickey to BR? Mickey and Urban were close pals for decades. Mickey might be looking for a change of scenery now that the new regime has taken over in C'Bus.
I can't count the times Urban Meyer has given credit to Mickey Marotti for Urban's success as a Head Coach.
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:09 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Tell your pal Tommy to call Mickey Marott
We are not trying to be like Ohio State, they have fallen off as of late and without Myer it’s going to take a lot more than jugs machines.
In the Sec Bama sets the bar and their workout is not much different than ours with the exception of better QBs and better Offensive lines, which will be improved at LSU this year thanks to JB and the new o-line coach.
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the WRs can run the reps voluntarily
They do this already. The lack of a QB has hurt LSU and the O-line blocking has been sub par. When your QB has time in the pocket he makes better throws that are not rushed
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:25 pm to LSUNV
Rumblings are all around regarding Moffitt's shortcomings. His failure to get LSUs receivers adequate reps during the off-season could be the final nail in his coffin.
Trying to sweep this failure under the rug isn't helping him.
Trying to sweep this failure under the rug isn't helping him.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:52 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
No one is sweeping anything u nder the rug, I just find it funny that people are actually blaming the S&C coach for dropped passes, and these rumblings are not coming out of the athletic building lol
I am just glad we have more astute people in charge of this situation
And by the way, I think Moffitt is a great S&C coach but he has not lived up to the bar with the o-linemen. I think he ends to spend more time getting them in SEC shape rather than worrying about receivers. You can have 25 1sr round hall of fame receivers but without an oline that can block it ain’t going to matter
I am just glad we have more astute people in charge of this situation
And by the way, I think Moffitt is a great S&C coach but he has not lived up to the bar with the o-linemen. I think he ends to spend more time getting them in SEC shape rather than worrying about receivers. You can have 25 1sr round hall of fame receivers but without an oline that can block it ain’t going to matter
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 5/18/19 at 12:14 am to LSUNV
WRs make their catching chops in the off-season (ask Odell and Landry) - Moffitt is in charge of the off-season. If the WRs continue to have drops on simple catches, Moffitt will be blamed.
And rightly so, IMO.
And rightly so, IMO.
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 2:13 am
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