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re: should JJ feel betrayed by LSU fans?

Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:41 pm to
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I was disappointed in his overall play till Bama, but he did seem to step it up from that game on and finished on a roll with 4 TDs and a complete performace in the Cotton Bowl.

He just can't drift around any longer. Its time for him to lead the team on a regular basis and not just now and then.


Agreed. If he plays like he did in only certain games last year then he will start and we will be pumped up. If his play more reflects his total effort in 10 then the other two qbs would have to be absolutely awful to not get in the game and get a shot at becoming the starter. Just look at last year, Miles was absolutely dying for either of the two to separate themselves from the other and make Miles' job easy. JL stepped in and saved our skins in a couple of games, but he couldn't put it together long enough to prove his consistency. I think this year it's wide open in the spring. Whoever pulls ahead in Spring practice will get the starting nod. Once the season starts though, Miles is going to do what it takes to keep winning. If that means bring in a reliever for a couple of series, but never taking the starting job from the incumbent to hopefully mantain some continuity, I think he will. My thought is that whoever wins this job, will need to do it in the Spring and I also think it will be open-competition.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:42 pm to
Played well against Bama sucked again vs ULM then played ok vs Ole Miss and Arkansas and had his best game of season vs A&M
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:46 pm to
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Played well against Bama sucked again vs ULM then played ok vs Ole Miss and Arkansas and had his best game of season vs A&M


I'm not saying he's good at all. All I said was that his back half performance would give the fanbase 400 percent more confidence in him than his entire year. If I'm a backup to JJ after last season, I am flat out embarrassed I can't take his job. I think JL and ZM feel this way going into the spring and I think it's wide open.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:47 pm to
Honestly... the last 5 games he reverted more to his 09 form. He took more sacks because he was willing to sit in the pocket longer and attempt to wait for someone to get open. As I have said before both he and Lee have some mental blocks. Mett provides a fresh slate free of Crowton's touch.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:48 pm to
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JJ is smart enough to realize that the rantardoes on this site do not represent the majority of LSU fans.


Do you want better QB play or not?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:50 pm to
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JJ is smart enough to realize that the rantardoes on this site do not represent the majority of LSU fans.



actually, the rant represents a good portion of the fan base

what world do you live in?
Posted by windriver
West Monroe/San Diego
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:51 pm to
Try answering your own question.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5663 posts
Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:00 pm to
Sure, if you're in ZM or JL's shoes with a new coordinator and the guy that had the job last season doing so poorly you have to feel pretty confident. Last year it was understandable Miles wouldn't make a drastic mid-season switch because it could've totally ruined a season we were still salvaging. But this Spring, with all practice and 0 chance of derailing a great season mid-stream? I really think it will be open in March and close with Mett taking the job at the end of spring practice
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:05 pm to
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Do you want better QB play or not?


Honestly, I want LSU to win. The play of a specific guy on the team doesn't change that. If LSU wins I really don't care if any one particular player had a great game or not. The individual is less important than the team.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:06 pm to
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Honestly, I want LSU to win. The play of a specific guy on the team doesn't change that. If LSU wins I really don't care if any one particular player had a great game or not. The individual is less important than the team.


To win the SEC or NC, it is pretty safe to say that better QB play is necessary. LSU is certianly in a position to make a run next year.

Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31888 posts
Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:07 pm to
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carried LSU to an 11-2 record.

so many things wrong with this statement....


I have only read the OP and this first response, and this covers all the bases. We were 11-2 in spite of JJ, not because. If any of his relatives that post on here want to take issue, then I ask the same thing I always do-point to ONE game where you can attribute the win to JJ.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:12 pm to
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To win the SEC or NC, it is pretty safe to say that better QB play is necessary. LSU is certianly in a position to make a run next year.


That's a supposition. Better is pretty undefinable(Indefinable?). And please don't insult either of us by quoting "stats". If the LSU QB's don't throw a single TD pass all season and LSU goes undefeated I'll not complain at all about "stats". If the LSU QB's throw 30 TD passes and LSU goes 6-5, I will be very disappointed, but I won't glory in improved "stats".
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:12 pm to
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carried LSU to an 11-2 record


Posted by A75CADDY
BatonRouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
415 posts
Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:17 pm to
@Icansee
Alabama, Ole Miss and A&M and to a lesser extent Tenn(long td run buoyed team)
This post was edited on 2/22/11 at 10:18 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:18 pm to
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That's a supposition. Better is pretty undefinable(Indefinable?). And please don't insult either of us by quoting "stats". If the LSU QB's don't throw a single TD pass all season and LSU goes undefeated I'll not complain at all about "stats". If the LSU QB's throw 30 TD passes and LSU goes 6-5, I will be very disappointed, but I won't glory in improved "stats".


LSU isn't winning a NC with QB play as bad as it was last year.

You want to argue against that?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:20 pm to
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Alabama, Ole Miss and A&M and to a lesser extent Tenn(long td run buoyed team)


Disagree on Alabama and Tennessee
Posted by A75CADDY
BatonRouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
415 posts
Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:22 pm to
He had a great 2nd half against Bama. Played so well Gary Danielson pronounced the quarterback situation settled while commentating the game.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:25 pm to
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Played so well Gary Danielson
Is that an indicator of who should be the QB
Posted by A75CADDY
BatonRouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
415 posts
Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:31 pm to
No. Just that a former qb commentating the game was impressed by his play in that game. That comment doesnt speak to whether or not he should b starting.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:33 pm to
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Played so well Gary Danielson pronounced the quarterback situation settled while commentating the game.


Apparently you don't use the Verne index like a lot of us do here. If you can make Verne go WOAAAAAAAH on a simple 5 yard out, you're a star.
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