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re: Russel Shepard Only caught 6 passes the entire year?
Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:11 am to Sho Nuff
Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:11 am to Sho Nuff
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Deflect much? I'm not bashing the coaches.
Please re-read what you posted above after "you just don't get it".
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Personal attacks on you? How old are you? Calling you predictable is certainly not an attack. Especially considering the path you took in this "debate".
What path? I just brought up fair points after you made the comment about the coaches. I called out the predictability of this thread and then you called me predictable. We can do the "No I'm not...your are!" arguments all day.
This post was edited on 1/27/13 at 3:12 am
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:19 am to coldhotwings
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What path? I just brought up fair points after you made the comment about the coaches. I called out the predictability of this thread and then you called me predictable. We can do the "No I'm not...your are!" arguments all day.
Eh, some blame the players, some the coaches for the offense. At some point you gotta stop blaming players.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:20 am to coldhotwings
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Please re-read what you posted above after "you just don't get it".
Since I'm an adult, I'll post what you wrote and what I wrote:
The offense sucked, the o-line can't block, and Mett cannot hit an open receiver at an alarming rate. So what does this have to do with Shep getting more carries again or is it just another jab at the coaches?
So I answered your "points":
You just don't get it. Who is it that didn't let Mett take ANY snaps in 2011 other than against Northwestern fricking St? Who didn't let Shep touch the ball after 2010? Who leads this clown offense? Please don't say Stud. Your questions have been answered.
If the offense sucks, and the QB is not where he should be who's fault is that? You didn't even try to answer the question of why didn't Mett gets snaps in 2011. Do you think it would have helped? As mentioned, who's offense is this? And if it "sucks' as you said (which I agree with), who's fault is it?
Now apply that same line of questions to why Shep did not get anymore touches. With an anemic offense, you don't think it could have been worth giving the ball to a guy who averaged 7?
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We can do the "No I'm not...your are!" arguments all day.
No, that's not necessary. That's why I pasted everything said. It's perfectly ok to question the coach and not be bashing him. If Shep didn't get snaps, that's because of the coach. So it is relative to the thread.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:20 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Unless the offense is changed, a back like Brrazil (if he is even used at RB) will have limited use in this offense. LSU will always have a big between the tackles guy or two who gets the bulk of the work.
Shep was a much better prospect than Brazil. No reason to think his career doesn't take the same path.
I don't see the similarities other than the athlete aspect of it. Shep was brought in with the understanding that he will be given a chance to compete as a QB but he eventually switched to WR where he does not show good hands. Brazil is coming with the understanding that his placement will be determined during off-season training when they scope out his best abilities whether it be on offense or defense. Brazil is coming in ready to go wherever he is told instead of fighting against the current which Shep initially did.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:31 am to Sho Nuff
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You just don't get it. Who is it that didn't let Mett take ANY snaps in 2011 other than against Northwestern fricking St? Who didn't let Shep touch the ball after 2010? Who leads this clown offense? Please don't say Stud. Your questions have been answered.
If the offense sucks, and the QB is not where he should be who's fault is that? You didn't even try to answer the question of why didn't Mett gets snaps in 2011. Do you think it would have helped? As mentioned, who's offense is this? And if it "sucks' as you said (which I agree with), who's fault is it
Sorry that I cannot respond to your questions in a prompt fashion. As you can see, you are not the only person I'm responding to here. I do not know who decided how many snaps Mett got last season. If/when I do find out, I'll post the results with links and everything. And I do think switching out Stud for a better OC would make the offense better.
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No, that's not necessary. That's why I pasted everything said. It's perfectly ok to question the coach and not be bashing him. If Shep didn't get snaps, that's because of the coach. So it is relative to the thread.
To be honest, I'd rather see Ford get more snaps before Shep.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:32 am to coldhotwings
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I don't see the similarities other than the athlete aspect of it. Shep was brought in with the understanding that he will be given a chance to compete as a QB but he eventually switched to WR where he does not show good hands. Brazil is coming with the understanding that his placement will be determined during off-season training when they scope out his best abilities whether it be on offense or defense. Brazil is coming in ready to go wherever he is told instead of fighting against the current which Shep initially did.
. Shep understood there was a possibility he would move when he came in, which we all kind of figured would happen since no other school promised him a shot at QB except LSU. Brazil may not even end up on offense, which may be the best for him if he wants PT at LSU.
Sheps problem was the staff continued to try to make him a WR, and he was never ever going to be a WR.
This post was edited on 1/27/13 at 3:33 am
Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:35 am to coldhotwings
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And I do think switching out Stud for a better OC would make the offense better.
I think so too. BUT Miles needs to lay off like he has done with Chavis.
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To be honest, I'd rather see Ford get more snaps
Shep getting a couple more touches would not have drastically altered things. But yes, since Shep did not, I would've liked to have seen Ford with more as well.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:37 am to coldhotwings
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I do get it. It is another coaching hate fest thread
And here we go. Its the offensive players fault that Les Miles offense has sucked since '08. Even though we keep getting Elite 11 QBs. They're just overrated.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:43 am to Sho Nuff
This debate, like too often many other debates, is starting to spin around in circles. I am not trying to label Shep as a bust or even as a bad player. I just don't think he is the type of player that everyone imagined coming out of high school. I don't think the offense did him much favors but I also think he was a victim of the talent around him. You can switch out Les Miles for the great Saban and I still think he gets buried under Hill, Blue, Ware, Hilliard, and Ford with the possibility of getting forced out before he even makes it to his senior year. He just doesn't fit. That's not a hit on his talent but he's not anywhere near the top of the LSU totem pole for playing time. That's just my opinion.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:45 am to coldhotwings
For ATH's it's probably in their best interest to go to a school that will find a way to use them. I don't see that happening at LSU in this offense. Most ATH's move to defense, transfer or stay buried down the depth chart.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:55 am to League Champs
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And here we go. Its the offensive players fault that Les Miles offense has sucked since '08. Even though we keep getting Elite 11 QBs. They're just overrated.
I am fully aware that the offensive development has been lackluster. I'm just tired seeing how every thread gets transformed into how we have the worst coaches in all of CFB. I guess there is nothing else to talk about within the scope of LSU football.
This post was edited on 1/27/13 at 3:57 am
Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:57 am to coldhotwings
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I'm just tried seeing how every thread gets transformed into how we have the worst coaches in all of CFB. I guess there is nothing else to talk about within the scope of LSU football
I don't see that happening. Most of us understand where the problem lies and hope it gets fixed. If we had the worst coaches in football, there would be no hope.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 4:01 am to RogerTheShrubber
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For ATH's it's probably in their best interest to go to a school that will find a way to use them. I don't see that happening at LSU in this offense. Most ATH's move to defense, transfer or stay buried down the depth chart.
I can't think of many prospects out of HS that were listed as athletes that came to LSU and was asked to play on offense. I can only think of Shep and Drayton Calhoun. Calhoun isn't doing very much at Middle Tennessee right now.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 4:05 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't see that happening. Most of us understand where the problem lies and hope it gets fixed. If we had the worst coaches in football, there would be no hope.
I guess these doom and gloom threads do not bother you as much as it does me. The guys who start these threads are quick to point others who don't follow along as having their heads in the sand. I see them more as people who don't want to cry about something they have no control over.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 4:06 am to coldhotwings
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I can't think of many prospects out of HS that were listed as athletes that came to LSU and was asked to play on offense. I can only think of Shep and Drayton Calhoun. Calhoun isn't doing very much at Middle Tennessee right now.
Fobbs was, I think and he is buried on the depth chart.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 4:09 am to RogerTheShrubber
Alaska, Japan and Hawaii representing in this thread. 
Posted on 1/27/13 at 4:10 am to tigerpimpbot
1:10a here right now.Posted on 1/27/13 at 4:10 am to tigerpimpbot
Last year I was living in Thailand haha
eta: 12:11 here
This post was edited on 1/27/13 at 4:11 am
Posted on 1/27/13 at 4:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Fobbs was, I think and he is buried on the depth chart.
Fobbs was originally offered to play DB but he refused to entertain that position. He committed to TAMU but flipped before NSD when our staff switched his offer to WR. They never really wanted him on offense and he never had anything to offer that other WR's didn't already have. He's not big, he doesn't stretch the secondary, and his route running and hands are average. Brazil, on the other hand, can offer something that the other RB's cannot. With Ford gone, we don't have a guy to quickly get to the sidelines. I would love to see the option running plays come back and Brazil getting the pitch-out. Jennings and Brazil would make a good combo for that.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 4:14 am to coldhotwings
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I guess these doom and gloom threads do not bother you as much as it does me. The guys who start these threads are quick to point others who don't follow along as having their heads in the sand. I see them more as people who don't want to cry about something they have no control over.
Eh, I don't see them as doom and gloom, just discussing the obvious. We all know there are offensive issues.
I think Miles runs a great program but there is something missing that keeps this current program from fulfilling it's potential. I wouldn't call that doom and gloom, just discussing the way things are. Things could be a little better, and could be a lot worse.
As far as Shep, he was just a victim of coming somewhere he thought he could compete at QB, and never would fit in. Would have been better off elsewhere.
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