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re: Russel Shepard Only caught 6 passes the entire year?
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:06 am to Brettesaurus Rex
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:06 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:25 am to Brettesaurus Rex
Who gives a shite. Why do you folks constantly look for a breakout player on offense. Never will happen.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:28 am to HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
Still at it, huh?
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:28 am to RogerTheShrubber
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He was getting the short stuff his first couple of years, then everything seemed to move downfeild for him.
Shep caught 12 passes in 2011. 4 went for TDs. 3 of those were screens. thought that we'd see more of that this past yr.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:28 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Bruh I've forgotten more football than you will ever know. Period.
That's a clown statement...bruh. I've seen you use it in about every thread you're in since I started posting here more frequently a couple months ago. Inferiority complex at its finest.
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Which player are you taking carries away from ,to give to Shep?
I do understand what you're saying here, but you cannot keep throwing away his 7 ypc and act like Shep never made things happen. Wouldn't you like to know with 200 touches what his average would be? How do we know it wouldn't have stayed at a 7 ypc clip?
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:31 am to ATLTiger
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Shep caught 12 passes in 2011. 4 went for TDs. 3 of those were screens. thought that we'd see more of that this past yr.
Very possible if there wasn't a change in QB's.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:32 am to Escobar600
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it really is amazing how people continue to come out and defend Miles' coaching. No wonder the idiot makes so much money to come in second place. LSU - where offensive talent comes to die.
What's hypocritical is that they do this at the expense of players in some cases.
You guys think the Rant could scare off recruits because of people talking bad about Miles but don't think talking bad about players is worse?
There is NO defending the LSU offense. None. We don't know what Shep would have done with more touches but I think with a 7 ypc, it might have been worth a shot to give him more. So do many other people.
This post was edited on 1/27/13 at 12:34 am
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:32 am to Sho Nuff
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Wouldn't you like to know with 200 touches what his average would be?
I was OK with not finding out and handing the ball off to Hill more often.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:49 am to coldhotwings
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I was OK with not finding out and handing the ball off to Hill more often.
Haha, what a copout. Dude, I love Hill and want him to be the main ball carrier this coming season. But we are not talking about taking rushes from Hill as much as involving Shep with some screens or special plays. I am literally talking about 2-3 more touches a game at most.
Tell me again how many rushes Hill had in the 4th quarter against Clemson?
This post was edited on 1/27/13 at 12:51 am
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:52 am to Sho Nuff
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Tell me again how many rushes Hill had in the 4th quarter against Clemson?
What does this have to do with Shepard? Does Mett choosing to audible from run to pass on that last drive also take Shepard into account?
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:57 am to Sho Nuff
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I am literally talking about 2-3 more touches a game at most.
That wouldn't put his touches anywhere near the 200 that you want to see. If he gets Ford's touches then this thread is about us not giving Ford the opportunity to showcase himself.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:58 am to coldhotwings
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What does this have to do with Shepard?
It doesn't. It was more about the same guy who decided not to involve Shep did not involve Hill in the 4th quarter.
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Does Mett choosing to audible from run to pass on that last drive also take Shepard into account?
Shep hasn't been accounted for in quite a while. And I'm certainly not some huge Shep guy and think he should have been QB and all that stuff. But what I am saying is that it damn well couldn't have hurt this anemic offense to give the guy more touches.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:58 am to Brettesaurus Rex
If I were a top offensive recruit from LA coming out of high school I could not think of a good reason to want to be part of this offense.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:00 am to coldhotwings
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That wouldn't put his touches anywhere near the 200 that you want to see. If he gets Ford's touches then this thread is about us not giving Ford the opportunity to showcase himself.
You're being quite literal. I went off someone's post above saying he avg about 3 touches per game for his career at LSU. I am saying to double that. Whether it's 200 or 185 is not the point as much as getting the ball in his hands considering for the 100 touches he had, he avg 7 ypc. Yes, I know I know, it's all about the outlier runs
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:01 am to coldhotwings
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That wouldn't put his touches anywhere near the 200 that you want to see. If he gets Ford's touches then this thread is about us not giving Ford the opportunity to showcase himself.
I think the offense could have been more creative, and used the wide variety of talent they have in a more useful manner. Shep could have been used his last two years like he was his first two years.
If the offense is more creative and productive, there isn't any reason to believe there would also be more offensive plays, more touches for everyone.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:04 am to coldhotwings
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If he gets Ford's touches then this thread is about us not giving Ford the opportunity to showcase himself.
I know there is always a damned if you do damned if you don't type situation when you have a slew of RB's like LSU has. BUT, again, I would have liked to see if Shep could keep that 7 ypc up with double the touches. Wouldn't you? I mean I think I read somewhere that 7 ypc is good
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
In Shep's first year at LSU, he was still a QB. Now he is a WR and teams know what his tendencies are and what he can do from the backfield. If our offense was full of ULL players then a strong argument can certainly be made that Shep wasn't utilized. The issue for him was that he is competing against highly touted WR's with better hands than him and against a backfield of RB's who outweigh him by 40-50 pounds and can start just about anywhere in the country. The staff already made the decision on the hierarchy of touches. If he gets more touches, he's going to take a piece off of someone else's pie. If he would've taken a red-shirt, he'd be competing against only 3 others for carries next season instead of against 5 very good RB's.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:19 am to coldhotwings
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In Shep's first year at LSU, he was still a QB.
He had 45 rushes his first year, and 32 his second. He also caught passes out of the backfield. This is how he was effective.
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The staff already made the decision on the hierarchy of touches. If he gets more touches, he's going to take a piece off of someone else's pie. If he would've taken a red-shirt, he'd be competing against only 3 others for carries next season instead of against 5 very good RB's.
You can utilize an offense that increases touches for everyone. LSU's sluggish offense limited the number of touches...period.
A better offense utilizing the talent at hand may give everyone more opportunities to touch the ball. We aren't talking about taking away touches from anyone, but creating opportunities for everyone.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:21 am to Sho Nuff
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BUT, again, I would have liked to see if Shep could keep that 7 ypc up with double the touches. Wouldn't you? I mean I think I read somewhere that 7 ypc is good
I've seen enough football to know that 7 ypc cannot be sustained with a bigger load of carries. To give you an NFL example, look at Jerious Norwood when he played for the Atlanta Falcons. The guy was a homerun threat when he touched the ball and he had a very high ypc average. He hardly got the ball because he was very limited in his abilities outside of occasionally breaking off a big run. When he was averaging above 6 ypc, he got to 100 rushing attempts in only 1 season.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:26 am to coldhotwings
You never know man. He kept it up for 100 carries. A few more "outlier" runs and he may could have done it.
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