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Run Defense or Pass Defense

Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Biggins
Member since Apr 2022
92 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:18 pm
I agree with a poster who posted this. We should be good in at least one of these. Even if talent isn’t there, we should be scheming to stop one of the two. We are bad at both. I don’t get it
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:20 pm to
Our defensive issues are mainly concerning scheme.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155621 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:21 pm to
I thought we’d be much better vs the run
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30013 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:26 pm to
2 trash linebackers and no real elite DL will do that
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44563 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

I don’t get it


Well, the pass defense was suspect before we went through all the personnel issues at DB.

We went out and got 4 CBs from the portal and none of em are available. Not to mention our captain/ best DB in Brooks is out.

Run D is just a comedy of bad tackling, bad technique, bad coaching/ questionable personnel decisions and of course Wingo going down as well.

It's all just astonishing to think we could be this bad.
Posted by CBarkleytruth
Member since Dec 2014
1663 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:32 pm to
Against Bama it was like the LBs weren’t even there. This last game a certain someone finally collided with a ball carrier in the gap twice but could only bear hug each time until the whistle bailed him out. Devin White would be ashamed.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

I agree with a poster who posted this. We should be good in at least one of these. Even if talent isn’t there, we should be scheming to stop one of the two. We are bad at both. I don’t get it


We are playing a stripped down version of the scheme now that’s vanilla all the time, so that doesn’t help. There’s no disguising anything we’re doing right now.

The biggest problem with the pass D is playing true freshmen who just aren’t ready. Any QB with a pulse can beat a vanilla zone playing 10 yards off with no blitz or pressure. Other than Ryan (who played well Sat), no one breaks on the ball quickly enough to stop an accurate throw.

As for the run, we get stops inside when the ILBs and Safeties do their jobs filling gaps. That happens maybe 50% of the time. We have no speed at ILB other than Weeks, so outside runs are a huge problem. But we won’t commit numbers up so the secondary doesn’t give up big plays, which gives up a lot of 4-10 yard runs.

We are not really set up to be consistently successful at stopping either. Maybe Weeks playing a bunch Saturday will help with outside runs. He and Perkins have the speed to make a real impact there. But we still have to hope whoever plays inside with him will also hit the right gap.
Posted by Carbonman
Butte la Rose
Member since May 2022
496 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

I agree with a poster who posted this. We should be good in at least one of these. Even if talent isn’t there, we should be scheming to stop one of the two. We are bad at both. I don’t get it


Based on the 2 college football coaches I know and talk to on a regular basis they are unanimous in saying our secondary makes our front 7 look not as good as they are. Opponents WR's, TE's and RB's are getting open too quickly whick negates our pass rush big time. I am in agreement with their point of view.
Posted by nwallb2
Member since Jun 2018
751 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:15 pm to
Need Weeks back in the worst way. His speed is DESPERATELY needed in front 7. Most players look like they’re running in quick sand. Mason still looks hurt because when he runs it looks like he’s jogging.
Posted by LuckyTiger57
Member since Dec 2015
1241 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:21 pm to
I think our pass defense would be better with a better pass rush, however even with a better pass rush with this inexperienced secondary, I’m not sure how it would be. As far as run defense, we definitely should be better than we are showing. Linebackers are a problem, especially when they, along with cornerbacks and safeties miss making tackles.
Posted by KPP
Covington
Member since Sep 2015
743 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:25 pm to
I lot of this is poor coaching and poor schemes.
We also never blitz..
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