re: Ridley's YPG Rushing extrapolated

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I wonder if you bothered to think that maybe our passing attempts are low because

a. We aren't passing the ball effectively so we call fewer passing plays
b. We can't sustain drives

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On occasion you really show your arse.

Jefferson completed over 70% of his passes against UNC. He completed over 60% of his passes against Mississippi State.

There are three very big reasons why we are not throwing the ball.

One, we've been in the lead in every game for the entire game (expect maybe one minute of one game). Miles plays to protect leads. Thus, we run. Miles was not looking to pass in any fourth quarter this year. He didn't need to pass.

Two, Miles has been looking to establish the run for a long time. Thus, LSU runs every chance it gets.

Three, the o-line has been far better at run blocking than pass blocking. I'm sure the unit will get better at pass blocking as it gets experience; however, that's the way it is right now.

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One, we've been in the lead in every game for the entire game (expect maybe one minute of one game). Miles plays to protect leads. Thus, we run. Miles was not looking to pass in any fourth quarter this year. He didn't need to pass.

Two, Miles has been looking to establish the run for a long time. Thus, LSU runs every chance it gets.

Three, the o-line has been far better at run blocking than pass blocking. I'm sure the unit will get better at pass blocking as it gets experience; however, that's the way it is right now.

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So not being able to sustain drives has nothing to do with our number of pass attempts?

We don't convert on 3rd and long so we punt. Therefore fewer pass attempts. It isn't rocket science. We don't pass much because we can't and when we do try to pass we're usually punting shortly after.

Sure LSU plays to protect leads but the majority of the second half against WVU we only had a one score lead. You don't get that conservative with a 6 point game unless you have no faith in your QB.



My problem with your stupid statement was that you were trying to imply that the ONLY reason we are ranked so low in passing is because of our attempts. That's simply not the case. It's also because our passing game is inept.

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You don't get that conservative with a 6 point game unless you have no faith in your QB.

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bullshite. You had a running back that ripped the opponent for 90 yards in the second half and you had the lead. That's why the game was played as it was.

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bullshite. You had a running back that ripped the opponent for 90 yards in the second half and you had the lead. That's why the game was played as it was.

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How many points did we score in the second half again?

It was a one score game the entire second half after the pick that JJ threw.

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So not being able to sustain drives has nothing to do with our number of pass attempts?

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Sustaining drives increases plays. However, many of our drives are killed by penalties and drops. It's not just Jefferson. In addition, LSU hasn't had the opportunity to have as many long drives as other teams because STs have been so successful. You can dismiss it all you want; however, it is an indisputable fact.

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We don't convert on 3rd and long so we punt. Therefore fewer pass attempts. It isn't rocket science. We don't pass much because we can't and when we do try to pass we're usually punting shortly after.

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We don't pass much because Crowton and Miles don't call pass plays much. That too is an indisputable fact. When your QB completes over 70% of his passes in the first game, there is little reason to doubt his abilities. Nevertheless, Crowton and Miles don't call many pass plays.

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Sure LSU plays to protect leads but the majority of the second half against WVU we only had a one score lead. You don't get that conservative with a 6 point game unless you have no faith in your QB.

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I think you mean that you would not think that a coach would get that conservative with a one score lead; however, Miles does.

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My problem with your stupid statement was that you were trying to imply that the ONLY reason we are ranked so low in passing is because of our attempts. That's simply not the case. It's also because our passing game is inept.

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Lack of pass attempts is the leading causal factor. Yes, Jefferson has had a couple of very bad games. However, Crowton and Miles like to run with Jefferson because they believe that Jefferson can run.

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Earl

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i like Ridley, but i think he struggles against good defenses.

he had trouble running against the only "legit" D we have played, UNC. And they were missing some players.

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Shocker. A simpleminded analysis. Here's a tip...our Oline is developing game to game and is run blocking much better now than in the first couple of games. Remember the Vandy game? Our backs were hit at or behind the line about every third attempt. Last week, I don't think we had a back hit behind the line the entire game. Run blocking can make a decent back look good and a good back look great. We're getting better blocking each time out.

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Sustaining drives increases plays

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Right

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have as many long drives as other teams because STs have been so successful.

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Right

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When your QB completes over 70% of his passes in the first game, there is little reason to doubt his abilities

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So he completes 70% of his passes in one game against backups indoors and that tells us all we need to know about him?

Too bad that after 4 complete games he is the 108th ranked passer in all of college football. I'd say 4 games is a better sample size than 1 game but who am I to contend with an attorney on matters of mathematics?

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I think you mean that you would not think that a coach would get that conservative with a one score lead; however, Miles does.

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He wouldn't be that conservative if he trusted his QB. And it's not like we didn't throw it in the second half. In fact we threw it MORE in the second half than we did in the first half.

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Lack of pass attempts is the leading causal factor.

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I'll buy that as one of the causal factors. I just don't see why you won't concede that there is a causal factor that leads to the lack of passing attempts. Namely that we're not very good at throwing the football.

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So he completes 70% of his passes in one game against backups indoors and that tells us all we need to know about him?

Too bad that after 4 complete games he is the 108th ranked passer in all of college football. I'd say 4 games is a better sample size than 1 game but who am I to contend with an attorney on matters of mathematics?

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No. The first game doesn't tell you all that you need to know about him. Yes, four games is a better sample size.

However, explain to me how the results of the third and fourth game influenced the thinking in the second game? Crowton and Miles are psychics?

Crowton and/or Miles want to run the ball. Do you deny this? Miles has certainly wanted to run the ball before the year started. Do you deny this? The O-line has done a better job of run blocking than pass blocking. Yes?

So if you want to argue that the future will see more running because of the past four games, I can understand your argument even if I don't necessarily agree with it. However, I'm pretty sure that LSU runs because someone on the coaching staff thinks LSU needs to run in the SEC to be successful, and not because LSU cannot pass.

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He wouldn't be that conservative if he trusted his QB. And it's not like we didn't throw it in the second half. In fact we threw it MORE in the second half than we did in the first half.

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I went back and counted the pass attempts in the second half. I counted 11 pass attempts for Jefferson. He had 22 for the game. I suppose this is another example of my questionable mathematics.

Now, I know that Lee also had a pass in the second half, so it's true that LSU threw the ball more in the second half. However, I don't think the coaches think that Lee can run or execute a zone read or an option effectively. Thus, when he is in the game, LSU is more likely to pass because of what he can't do.

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could have had 200 yards vs WVU

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He rushed for a career high of 116 yards.

How the hell do you figure he "could have" had another 84 yards?

Please explain.

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Not sure they "suck"...six wins is attainable.

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LSU prob has 40 or more future NFL players on their team.

Vandy prob has 5.

They dont belong on the same field.

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And, explain what you mean by "inflated" stats?

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well he is averaging 5.8 YPC as of now, in all 4 games.

if you take out the Vandy game, it drops to 4.7, which is pretty average for college football.

And if you take UNC and Miss ST, its 4.2

those numbers dont translate well against good defenses.

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You are a dumbass. For a big back, he has excellent feet, cutting technique and balance.

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balance is good. Feet are average at best. Not the same thing.

feet= putting foot in ground/making a cut/hitting a hole.

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When is the last time you got those bad boys checked? Your missing some good football.

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good one.