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re: Richardson as an example
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:14 am to Bubba Hotep
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:14 am to Bubba Hotep
BTW- Richardson never seriously considered LSU. He was well advised to keep options open (in case Bama got caught cheating again), but was never coming to LSU absent something like that.
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Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:35 am to pensacola
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Do you think Miles would have played Richardson in front of Scott? I do not!
You are being much to generous to Miles. Not only would he had not played Richardson before Scott, he wouldn't have played him before Keiland Williams, Richard Murphy, or Ridley. Most likely he would have tried to redshirt Richardson.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:49 am to RonDelDon
I hate to say it but its true, if you are a 5 star talent being recruited by Bama and LSU, where do you go? Well, take a look at Richardson and Shepard. Richardson had a very effective year and was a key role in the offense at Bama. Shepard ran pretty much the same play every time and was rarely used. You don't think coaches are using this against LSU? I can assure you, LSU's recruiting will take a hit if this continues.
ETA: Richardson would not have seen the field for LSU.
ETA: Richardson would not have seen the field for LSU.
This post was edited on 1/8/10 at 11:50 am
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:52 am to RonDelDon
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You are being much to generous to Miles. Not only would he had not played Richardson before Scott, he wouldn't have played him before Keiland Williams, Richard Murphy, or Ridley. Most likely he would have tried to redshirt Richardson.
While I totally agree with this statement, you need to factor in the fact that LSU had much better depth at RB than bama. Does that justify not playing a kid even if he's better than the upperclassmen that are playing, NO!! Giving all kids equal chances to compete for playing time has been the key to USC's success( of course, until they played a freshman QB this year ).
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:52 am to Chimlim
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I hate to say it but its true, if you are a 5 star talent being recruited by Bama and LSU, where do you go? Well, take a look at Richardson and Shepard. Richardson had a very effective year and was a key role in the offense at Bama. Shepard ran pretty much the same play every time and was rarely used. You don't think coaches are using this against LSU? I can assure you, LSU's recruiting will take a hit if this continues.
What cannot be argued is that almost (if not all) other programs in the nation would have used Shep more, brainfarts and all. That is too much talent to waste on the bench, especially when your offense is abysmal to begin with. How could it hurt, would we have had the 115th worst offense and slipped a couple spots?
Posted on 1/8/10 at 11:56 am to coolmonk
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What cannot be argued is that almost (if not all) other programs in the nation would have used Shep more, brainfarts and all. That is too much talent to waste on the bench, especially when your offense is abysmal to begin with. How could it hurt, would we have had the 115th worst offense and slipped a couple spots?
Absolutley correct. There are numerous coaches who would have found a way to make Shepard productive. I seriously think our coaches just don't know what to do with him, they are confused.....therefore Shepard is confused.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:02 pm to Chimlim
actually LSU had no depth at RB going into the bowl game and Shep didn't see the field, while BAMA had a full compliment of RBs including the heisman winner and Richardson played at least equal the amount of snaps.
I hate to say this, but recruits do notice this shite. That's why, while it sounds nice, giving seniors favors when they aren't really the best players is assinine. Miles doesn't have that luxury.
You play the best players. Period. Shep not getting in the bowl game is inexcusable.
I hate to say this, but recruits do notice this shite. That's why, while it sounds nice, giving seniors favors when they aren't really the best players is assinine. Miles doesn't have that luxury.
You play the best players. Period. Shep not getting in the bowl game is inexcusable.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:02 pm to Lacour
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Long term and cumulative. Richardson and Shep are perfect examples. Go to Bama - play and win. Go to LSU - be misused and be frustrated.
Other recruits WILL notice
you know what sucks about this theory? Star Jackson @ 'bama has seen the field in TWO years less than RS did this year at LSU. With your theory, Trent Richardson would NEVER consider 'bama b/c Saban doesn't play highly touted freshman.....wait, that was not your theory....i guess i am confused.
Making blind comparisons with different programs with different depth charts is futile. I really would have liked Richardson at LSU this year, but i also would have prayed the Miles DID redshirt him. With our depth that would have been the right move for our program. Somehow the fact the Miles stocks up on talent is now a negative thing?
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:05 pm to Helmethead
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Somehow the fact the Miles stocks up on talent is now a negative thing?
It's not the stocking up on talent, it's the under utilization and lack of development.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:05 pm to Helmethead
If I were a recruit I'd certainly wonder why Dre Kirkpatrick barely sniffed the field this year...
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:07 pm to Helmethead
Star Jackson has a better player in front of him. That's why he doesn't play.
Are you seriously saying that RS shouldn't see the field because we have too many other better players in front of him?
You do realize that we were 112 of 120 in offensive production and RS brought the only excitement the whole season?
Please just go away and root for someone else.
Are you seriously saying that RS shouldn't see the field because we have too many other better players in front of him?
You do realize that we were 112 of 120 in offensive production and RS brought the only excitement the whole season?
Please just go away and root for someone else.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:10 pm to musick
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musick
You dont keep up with recruiting much do you?
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:11 pm to Bubba Hotep
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It's actually a fallacy. Right up there with 3rd and Chavis. You can't show me any stats that say Miles plays less freshmen or underclassmen than any of our major competitors.
A conclussion based on false premises that you have down to a science.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:13 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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Star Jackson has a better player in front of him. That's why he doesn't play
coming out of high school jackson was the man, Mclroy was the "we did not get Tebow" offer
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Are you seriously saying that RS shouldn't see the field because we have too many other better players in front of him
no doubt RS had talent, but in the what 20 touches he had (not my number, but mentioned earlier in the thread) he had 3 fumbles and called 8-9 timeouts? so half the time he got the ball negative things happened? I sure was not begging for him to get it every play. I do think he will get better, but to think he should have gotten T. Richardson touches this year is obsurd to me, as soon as we were allowed 10 timouts per half, i was all about RS playing more.
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RS brought the only excitement the whole season
if this is true for you, maybe YOU need to root for someone else?
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:14 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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while BAMA had a full compliment of RBs
If by full compliment you mean 2 then sure...full compliment.
Im not saying Shep shouldnt have played more, but i would like someone to give one freshman that should have started and didnt since Miles has been here.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:20 pm to Lacour
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Richardson and Shep are perfect examples.
fail...completely different players. Richardson was the most complete back in the nation coming out of high school and was physically ready to contribute immediately at his defined role. Just because Shep was a 5 star doesn't mean that he is as good as Richardson at tailback.
Look at Shep...
1)apparently he is not ready to throw the ball at this level;
2)he caught about three passes in high school and put the ball on the ground his first reception as a tiger;
3) he runs with a terrible pad level and gets teabagged everytime he is tackled.
What I see in Shep is a marvelously talented athlete who is not good enough in any well-defined role to be an every-down player. Name one position on the team where he is clearly better than the player in front of him?
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:22 pm to Choctaw
Choctaw and Rant -
So do you believe that Miles and staff are developing young players to maximize their potential?
So do you believe that Miles and staff are developing young players to maximize their potential?
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:25 pm to coolmonk
Richardson is a legit freak...
He would've probably been starting in our offense.
He would've probably been starting in our offense.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:25 pm to Rantavious
Sometimes I wonder if the rantards will excuse absolutely anything.
All these stats and information about Shep and why he might not be ready are irrelevant. They only matter on a team that has the luxury of being a high powered offense. If Shep went to Texas? Yeah, sit his arse and let him learn.
But when you are 112th offensively in the entire nation, you TRY FREAKING ANYTHING to get your offense going.
You people are freaking retarded.
Uuuuhhhh. No. He would have been sitting behind KW and CS because Les doesn't play his best players.
All these stats and information about Shep and why he might not be ready are irrelevant. They only matter on a team that has the luxury of being a high powered offense. If Shep went to Texas? Yeah, sit his arse and let him learn.
But when you are 112th offensively in the entire nation, you TRY FREAKING ANYTHING to get your offense going.
You people are freaking retarded.
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He would've probably been starting in our offense.
Uuuuhhhh. No. He would have been sitting behind KW and CS because Les doesn't play his best players.
This post was edited on 1/8/10 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:26 pm to coolmonk
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So do you believe that Miles and staff are developing young players to maximize their potential?
There have been many players that have "developed" just fine under Miles. Im pretty sure he has sent quite a few to the NFL.
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