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re: retire 13.... hodson ... one of the best lsu q.b.'s

Posted on 6/12/11 at 9:48 am to
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 9:48 am to
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Hodson was good

Not good enough to retire 13 though

Wow. Did you read this article? Do you know that he was BETTER than Jones and Tittle at LSU? Not saying in the Pros. What does his pro career have to do with what he did at LSU? He needed 2 things:
1. Outstanding career at LSU. BROKE MOST RECORDS and WAS AN OUTSTANDING LEADER. ALL AMERICAN!
2. Graduate from the program.
He did both of those.

Dude won with MIKE ARCHER as coach!. That in itself should have easily gotten him some serious consideration!!!!

I was in school during his time. Still say he was the best LSU Qb I saw play and that includes Russell and others that have came along. You give him all of that talent then, he wins 2 NCs.
Dude was a winner.
Tommy Hodson set numerous records during his tenure with the Tigers. Many still stand:
- Most career passing yards - 9,115 yds.
- Most yards per game (career) 203.1 yds.
- Most passes without an interception - 49
- Most attempts - 1,163
- Most completions - 674
- Most career TD passes - 69
This post was edited on 6/12/11 at 9:55 am
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16108 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 9:55 am to
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Dude was a winner.
Tommy Hodson set numerous records during his tenure with the Tigers. Many still stand:


a case could be made for retiring Hodsons #. But LSU's all time winningest QB jersey should definetly be retired: #9
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16108 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 9:56 am to
Better QB: Hodson or Jefferson? Both were big time winners. Both had there strengths and weaknesses.
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:05 am to
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Better QB: Hodson or Jefferson? Both were big time winners. Both had there strengths and weaknesses.

WHAT! NOT EVEN CLOSE. Dude Hodson was 1000000 times better than that guy. JJ can't throw his way out of a paper bag. Secondly, Hodson WAS ALWAYS ready to play expecially week-to-week. JJ lacks in mental faculties and toughness to be considered in the clas with JR even. Get real.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16108 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:14 am to
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Secondly, Hodson WAS ALWAYS ready to play expecially week-to-week. JJ lacks in mental faculties and toughness


you don't go through all that JJ has been through, under the duress JJ has been under, get the wins that JJ has gotton, unless you have the mental faculties and toughness.
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:16 am to
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Both were big time winners. Both had there strengths and weaknesses.
:rotflmao:
JJ is not an SEC Caliper QB. Hodson LEAD his team to 2 SEC Championships with less talent and mut guts. He was a LEADER on his team as a RS freshman.
He was the TEAM CAPTAIN!
He commanded respect.
He had pocket awareness.
ALL OF THE INTANGIBLES to be called an SEC QB.
In 1987 they were 10-1-1. the tie with tOSU was due to Archer trying to pass on the seven when all we needed was to kick a FG and win.
Bama was just up for our game and beat us ,mostly with ball control on offense. It was a bad game on our part.
You always felt like, if he was there we had a chance to win. I NEVER feel that way with JJ.

JJ is NOT a winner. He is a cry baby that is ready to blame someone else. You NEVER heard Hodson do that.

I would rather JR over JJ. If I had my choice, give me Herb Tyler over JJ and JR. He was another Hodson like QB that knew how to win.
Posted by Cabby
Baba Booey Land
Member since Jan 2005
5764 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:17 am to
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boxcar willie


Are you high or something? You are comparing Hodson to Jefferson!
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87609 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:19 am to
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Better QB: Hodson or Jefferson? Both were big time winners. Both had there strengths and weaknesses.


Judas Priest.

Did you ever even see Hodson play?
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:20 am to
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all that JJ has been through, under the duress JJ has been unde

Last season he was rated about 90-100 range of all QBs in the country and he was RARELY under duress. Give me a freakin break. He is simply sorry and a cry baby. He blames EVERYONE else on his failures. They had to dummy down the offense to be able to have the success they had.
Even JL, as bad as he is, had to come in in some critical situations at the end of games to get wins. JJ is NOT a good QB. Lsu had a strong D and a good running game and a shite load of luck last year.
You obviously NEVER saw Hodson, WHO WAS AN ALL AMERICAN QB, play week to week or you wouldn't be making ANY of those comparisons. JJ is not as good as Josh Booty. He about about as good as Marcu Randall, maybe.
This post was edited on 6/12/11 at 10:24 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:27 am to
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Jaketigger


way to take the bait
Posted by Cabby
Baba Booey Land
Member since Jan 2005
5764 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:32 am to
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you don't go through all that JJ has been through, under the duress JJ has been under, get the wins that JJ has gotton, unless you have the mental faculties and toughness.


Holy shite, how long have you been watching football? Do you realize that if we would have had QB with half the talent, ability and toughness that Tommy Hodson had we would not have lost a game in the past two years. You must be related to JJ or may even be him to post something so stupid!
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:37 am to
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Hodson was good

Not good enough to retire 13 though

This and its not a knock on Hodson.
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:16 am to
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Hodson was good

Not good enough to retire 13 though



This and its not a knock on Hodson.

Prove your point. Go back and compare SEC championships, all sec, pASSING RECORDS, AA honors, etc between him, Tittle and Jones. Also consider his coach for 3 years - Arguably the WORSE coach in LSU History.
If this was about retiring a Jersey based on what happened during his playing days at LSU, then he is the BEST QB to EVER play at LSU and it should be retired.
Here is a sample of what he accomplished. NOT EVEN JONES CAME CLOSE!
In 1986, Hodson went to the Louisiana State University (LSU). As quarterback for LSU's football team, Hodson led LSU to two SEC Championships, first as a freshman (1986) and then as a junior (1988). During his 44 regular season games at LSU (1986–1989), Hodson passed for 9,115 yards and 69 touchdowns, becoming the first quarterback in SEC history to surpass 8,000 career passing yards, and the first quarterback in SEC history to surpass 60 career passing touchdowns. Hodson passed for over 2,000 yards during each of his four seasons at LSU, becoming the 3rd player in NCAA history to achieve that feat. During his freshman season, Hodson was voted to the first team All-SEC Team, becoming the first LSU quarterback to awarded that honor since the legendary Bert Jones (first team All-SEC Team, 1972). Hodson would go on to be selected to the first team of the All-SEC Team during each of his four seasons at LSU, becoming the only player in LSU history to achieve that feat.
With all that was there passing, LSU was a run oriented offense with Harvey Williams and Eddie Fuller. Arnsbarger loved his D and so did Archer. Coah Z wanted to pass all the time and he had to be controlled.
Here's his LSU Bio from LSU Sports.net
Tommy Hodson Bio



Courtesy: LSUsports.net
Release: 06/01/2011
1989 All-SEC QB (UPI)
1988 All-SEC QB (Coaches and AP)
1987 All-SEC QB (Coaches, AP and UPI)
1987 Finalist for Davey O'Brien Award
1986 Football News Freshman All-American (second team)
1986 All-SEC QB (Coaches and AP)

CAREER
Arguably the best quarterback in LSU history ... One of the most prolific passers in the history of the Southeastern Conference ... Chosen All-SEC for four years in a row by at least one of the major wire services ... Passed for 9,115 yards in his career, becoming the first 9,000-yard passer in SEC history ... Holds the LSU record for total yards with 8,938 (-117 yards rushing, 9,115 yards passing) ... Maintains the LSU record for touchdown passes in a career with 69 ... Averaged the most yards per game passing over a career in LSU history with 203.1 yards per game over 44 contests ... First player in SEC history to throw for over 2,000 yards in four straight seasons ... Threw for over 200 or more yards 26 times ... Started all but one game over his four year career ... Leads all LSU quarterbacks with 31 career victories ...



During Hodson's freshman season (1986), he led LSU to its first AP Top 10 finish since 1970 and its first SEC Championship since 1970. In Hodson's first game, he led #14 LSU to a 35-17 victory over #7 Texas A&M (televised by ESPN). Later in the season, Hodson led #18 LSU to a 14-10 victory at #6 Alabama (televised by ESPN).

During Hodson's sophomore season (1987), he led LSU to its first AP Top 5 finish since 1961. Major victories included #6 LSU's 17-3 victory at #15 Texas A&M (televised by ESPN), #9 LSU's 34-9 victory at Tennessee (televised by TBS, it was LSU's first win ever at Neyland Stadium), #4 LSU's 13-13 tie with #7 Ohio State (televised by CBS), #7 LSU's 13-10 victory over #19 Florida (televised by ESPN), #7 LSU's 26-23 victory at #16 Georgia (televised by ESPN), and #7 LSU's 30-13 victory over #8 South Carolina in the Gator Bowl (televised by CBS).

During Hodson's junior season (1988), he led LSU to another SEC Championship, and a #19 finish in the AP Poll. Major victories included #18 LSU's 27-0 victory over #10 Texas A&M, LSU's 7-6 victory over #4 Auburn (the famous Earthquake Game), and #13 LSU's 19-18 victory at #18 Alabama

Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77821 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:20 am to
Mauck > Flynn


Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:26 am to
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Mauck > Flynn

go fish somewhere else. This is about Hodson being worthy of having his number retired.
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:35 am to
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NOT EVEN JONES CAME CLOSE!

And Jones' number is not retired.Rretired numbers, IMHO, should surpass statistics and be reserved for the legendary. Cannon and Casonova were legends, a Heisman winner and a three time All-American. Tommy was outstanding but he was not a legend. My opinion.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 11:41 am to
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Cannon and Casonova were legends, a Heisman winner and a three time All-American. Tommy was outstanding but he was not a legend. My opinion.

I tend to agree. Cannon and Casonova are members of the College Football Hall of Fame. Tommy Hodson, while having a great career at LSU, was never an All-American. Hodson will always be fondly remembered but its too much to say his number should be retired.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63228 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 12:20 pm to
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Bert Jones, YES!

quote:

"The Best Part was Getting Out."

Bert Jones, NO!
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 1:50 pm to
He brought LSU football out of obscurity as a freshman. Was an all american. Heisman candidate. 4 time 1st team SECOND QB playing for ARCHER. No LSU Athlete ever was a 4 time first teamer. If people want that flash in the pan Dorsey's no. To be retired, then you have to retire this guys.
Posted by Chazz Reinhold
Vegas
Member since Jun 2007
4486 posts
Posted on 6/12/11 at 2:03 pm to
To me Hodson is so overated. Kinda like Billy Cannons run. Old people hate when I say that but I don't care. I remember Hodson and I don't recall that "greatness" factor. If he is one of the greatest QBs, don't you think we should retire the greatest ones first? I realize that everyone has an opinion on who that is but I'd bet the argument for YA and Bert Jones is more acceptable.

Faulk might get it one day but not anytime soon. Same with Dorsey.
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