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re: Rematches and "fairness"...rules of the BCS National Championship are laid out
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:13 pm to a want
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:13 pm to a want
Then it will be a nail biting BCS selection Sunday. If Oregon is ranked 2nd then Alabama fans should stfu and agree with it ( I realize the stfu part wouldn't happen ) But if after the season Alabama is 2nd then there you go, we've got the bowl matchups.
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:27 pm to ReauxlTide222
There is a very easy way to assuage anyone who is really concerned that Alabama is one of the two best teams. Vote them second at the end of the year. Everyone is happy.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:28 pm to ReauxlTide222
Still no reason why, if Ok St. and Stanford lose, that LSU should have to play an additional game against a possible top ten team on the road to earn the right to play a team in Alabama that we already beat on the road. It just makes me shake my head in disgust. "Earning" a right to play Bama again. What a fricking joke.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:30 pm to lsusa
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Prior to the season, the rules of the BCS National Championship were laid out.
They said that at seasons end, the team ranked No. 1 in the BCS rankings would play the team ranked No. 2 in the BCS rankings in a one-game playoff for the national title.
At this point LSU is ranked No. 1 in the BCS. If LSU wins its remaining 3 games plus the SEC Championship game it will be the No. 1 team in the BCS.
There are no "rules" that were agreed to before the season started about rematches, conference or division standings, or anything else. If we are No. 1 then, we need to play and beat whoever No. 2 is - be it a team we already played and beat, that shares our conference/division, etc.
If Alabama or Oregon is rightfully the 2nd best team, and the voters "manipulate" the system for any reason to avoid a "rematch", then it is unfair to LSU and all of college football because the rules have been changed after the games have started.
If Bama's road is "easier" than LSU's cause they didn't have to play the sec-c or got a loss, that's the breaks...I'd venture to say that no team in the country has played the schedule we have anyway.
Let's stop the griping, win out, and beat whoever we play for the championship. I don't want anyone saying our title is tainted.
Geaux Tigers.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:31 pm to ReauxlTide222
Do you think its right that LSU might have to beat Bama twice to win the N.C.?
How you would feel if the situation was reversed?
How you would feel if the situation was reversed?
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:33 pm to Michael J
IMO if you do not win your conference, you should not be eligible to play for the National Championship. This obviously would not apply to schools whose conference does not have a Championship Game.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:34 pm to Mike Linebacker
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AMEN
You say this like we aren't allowed to be upset about the possibility or as if we don't have some control over this. If the voters don't want a rematch, they can vote accordingly and we won't have a rematch. So stating the rules is pretty worthless on you part.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:35 pm to EPORE
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IMO if you do not win your conference, you should not be eligible to play for the National Championship. This obviously would not apply to schools whose conference does not have a Championship Game.
I agree. This doesn't have to be explicitly stated in the BCS rulebook for it to be implicitly taken into account in the 2/3 constituting the human vote.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:36 pm to Tiger Authority
Yes, that would be a joke. The BCS has flaws and that is a major one. And would not be fair to LSU. But right now nobody can do anything about that. Unless voters manipulated the poll, and then Alabama would be headed to the Sugar Bowl....and I would just have to suck it up and enjoy that.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:38 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Yes, that would be a joke. The BCS has flaws and that is a major one. And would not be fair to LSU. But right now nobody can do anything about that. Unless voters manipulated the poll, and then Alabama would be headed to the Sugar Bowl....and I would just have to suck it up and enjoy that.
We control our destiny, so while that outcome is possible, it's always better to control your outcome. But when I think about how realistic this could be, it blows my mind.
And the thought that LSU could lose the SEC title game and not even make the BCS at all if they're not still top two in the BCS.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:43 pm to Michael J
All I can tell you is IF there was a rematch and LSU beat Alabama again there would be no doubt that LSU was the best team in the country and most deserving of the NC title. If Alabama won it should be split, imo. I'm not sure how I would feel if our teams' roles were reversed but I think I would like it better if I got to enjoy the NCG with y'all. My best friend and his family are from LSU and huge LSU fans. If LSU and Alabama are ranked 1st and 2nd I'm not sure how someone could be disappointed.
This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:45 pm to ReauxlTide222
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All I can tell you is IF there was a rematch and LSU beat Alabama again there would be no doubt that LSU was the best team in the country and most deserving of the NC title. If Alabama won it should be split, imo.
Well it won't be a split if that happens. But I've said all along, even before the outcome, that this was the game regardless of what happened. That included LSU's title hopes going down the drain with the loss. Happy we didn't lose.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:50 pm to ReauxlTide222
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All I can tell you is IF there was a rematch and LSU beat Alabama again there would be no doubt that LSU was the best team in the country
why should their be doubt now? Did they or did they not beat Bama on their home field?
If things were reversed and Bama had came in and beat LSU in Death Valley would you not feel as many of us do? What more would Bama have to prove they would have beaten LSU when every advantage would have been with the Tigers. Why would Bama have to prove itself not once but twice?
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:52 pm to Tiger Authority
Your right, there are some screwed up possibilities out there. My only gripe with LSU fans is there are teams that have backed themselves up into National Championships before, it happens. AND the whole we already beat Bama thing. They don't pick the #1 team at the beginning of the season and then throw teams at them. LSU vs Alabama is a yearly matchup. Teams make it to the big game with 1 loss all the time. It isn't Alabama fault that they have to play a #1 ranked LSU team this year. If LSU isn't ranked #1 this year then people would just be arguing IF Alabama could get back to #1 or #2 again. They shouldn't be disqualified from having a chance just because LSU is ranked #1 already.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:53 pm to Michael J
Yes LSU would have to beat Bama twice, and while the victory over them in Tuscaloosa would seem like a curse, our reward from that win, is and would be our ability to control our own destiny going forward. Bama cannot say the same, they need Stanford and Okla St to lose.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:54 pm to Tiger Authority
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Still no reason why, if Ok St. and Stanford lose, that LSU should have to play an additional game against a possible top ten team on the road to earn the right to play a team in Alabama that we already beat on the road. It just makes me shake my head in disgust. "Earning" a right to play Bama again. What a fricking joke.
basically the winner of the game last week has a tougher road to the championship...(assuming the other 2 lose)
This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 11/8/11 at 5:01 pm to Michael J
There isn't doubt right now. From some Alabama fans yes, but the BCS has Alabama at 3 so there is obviously no doubt that LSU is better. I also believe LSU is better but at the end of the day it's just an opinion. Stanford fans feel they are better than Alabama but it won't move them in the polls, unless they win out and have a better argument for being ranked 2nd at the end of the year. Same goes for Oklahoma State and the rest. But if at the end of the year Alabama has the best argument to be ranked as the #2 team in the country AND the BCS also has them there then there should be no real debate.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 5:01 pm to ForeLSU
Bama shouldn't want the rematch. UGA thought they wanted a rematch in 2003 and told the world that the better team lost that day. They got their wish and we blasted them 34-13. At least if Bama doesn't get their rematch, they can keep hope alive that they were the better team all along. If we smoke them up like we did the puppies in 2003, they get a bitter close loss and an asskicking. Being number 2 at that point won't mean a whole lot.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 5:03 pm to ReauxlTide222
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All I can tell you is IF there was a rematch and LSU beat Alabama again there would be no doubt that LSU was the best team in the country and most deserving of the NC title.
There already is no doubt...LSU won the head to head game in T-Town. Why is this even an issue still? Do you have to beat the same team TWICE in one season to actually win now?
Posted on 11/8/11 at 5:06 pm to ForeLSU
Who, as of November 8th, is the second best team in Division 1 college football ? Alabama fans would say the Crimson Tide. Alabama players would say they are number one and lost the game by fluke.
How do you honestly figure out who the number two team is right now ? Look at wins/losses ? Defensive stats ? SOS ? Head to head wins/losses ? Simulate games on Sega 2011 ?
Does anyone truly belive that there are only 10 teams better than the University of Houston (9-0)? Actually, in my opinion, U of H should be ranked around 20th. Do you rank teams based on wins/losses or who you think would win if two teams played each other ? i.e. #1 beats #2 and #2 beats #3 etc.
Personally, I belive Alabama could beat everyteam in the top25 but could also lose to LSU and maybe Oklahoma. So what process do you use to rank these teams right now ? very difficult to determine and yet stay fair to teams that are undefeated but who have no real shot of remaining undefeated if they were to play LSU or Alabama.
It is not perfect but I think in the end, Alabama and LSU will have a rematch come Jan. 9, 2012 if both teams finish the table.
How do you honestly figure out who the number two team is right now ? Look at wins/losses ? Defensive stats ? SOS ? Head to head wins/losses ? Simulate games on Sega 2011 ?
Does anyone truly belive that there are only 10 teams better than the University of Houston (9-0)? Actually, in my opinion, U of H should be ranked around 20th. Do you rank teams based on wins/losses or who you think would win if two teams played each other ? i.e. #1 beats #2 and #2 beats #3 etc.
Personally, I belive Alabama could beat everyteam in the top25 but could also lose to LSU and maybe Oklahoma. So what process do you use to rank these teams right now ? very difficult to determine and yet stay fair to teams that are undefeated but who have no real shot of remaining undefeated if they were to play LSU or Alabama.
It is not perfect but I think in the end, Alabama and LSU will have a rematch come Jan. 9, 2012 if both teams finish the table.
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