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Recent Yahoo Sports article - "third party" overruled targeting call in PAC-12 game.
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:17 pm
This occurred just a few weeks ago, and is extremely relevant to what's currently going on with LSU.
- Washington State was called for a targeting call on Southern Cal's QB.
- The referees, in stadium replay officials, and PAC-12 command center all ruled the play as targeting.
- Yahoo Sports uncovered documents that a "third party" called and made his "opinion" known, and overruled everyone.
- That "third party" was Woodie Dixon, who is the General Counsel and Vice President of Business Affairs for the PAC-12.
Bias is real. Corruption is real. To sit there and pretend that this sport, and particularly a league like the SEC, isn't as shady as this is simply naive. This system is not infallible. This is happening in other leagues, and I have no doubt in my mind that some high ranking official in the SEC/REC made a similar call against White.
This is why the review seemed like such a sham.
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- Washington State was called for a targeting call on Southern Cal's QB.
- The referees, in stadium replay officials, and PAC-12 command center all ruled the play as targeting.
- Yahoo Sports uncovered documents that a "third party" called and made his "opinion" known, and overruled everyone.
- That "third party" was Woodie Dixon, who is the General Counsel and Vice President of Business Affairs for the PAC-12.
Bias is real. Corruption is real. To sit there and pretend that this sport, and particularly a league like the SEC, isn't as shady as this is simply naive. This system is not infallible. This is happening in other leagues, and I have no doubt in my mind that some high ranking official in the SEC/REC made a similar call against White.
This is why the review seemed like such a sham.
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On the final play of the third quarter of Washington State’s game at USC on Sept. 21, Trojan quarterback JT Daniels scrambled and ducked to a knee. After he’d established himself as down, Washington State linebacker Logan Tago dove at him headfirst and initiated clear helmet-to-helmet contact. The play drew both a flag for roughing the passer and a review for targeting.
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Targeting wasn’t called and Tago stayed in the game. The replay report obtained by Yahoo Sports states that “unfortunately a third party did not agree” with the call. That “third party” was Pac-12 general counsel and senior vice president of business affairs Woodie Dixon, Yahoo Sports sources have confirmed.
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It was a clear enough call that both the in-stadium replay officials and the replay officials in the Pac-12’s command center in San Francisco ruled the play as a targeting penalty, according to an internal replay report obtained by Yahoo Sports. This call would have ejected Tago from the game. An independent veteran official who viewed the play also told Yahoo Sports it was “clear targeting.”
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Dixon oversees football for the conference but is not a formally trained official. Dixon telephoned in his opinion that the play wasn’t targeting, sources said. According to the report, his opinion overruled both the trained officials in the stadium replay booth and in the league’s command center.
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:29 pm to Cs
Only problem, everyone at the SEC office is bias for Bama, so it doesn't help. We need an injunction from a lawyers help, and or a supreme court over ruling. I would go all the way with this bullshite if I'm LSU and D White
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:35 pm to Cs
Another example suggesting collegiate sports are corrupt - this isn't whining. The conferences attempt to shape the outcomes worse than NASCAR did for auto racing.
Certain programs are untouchable, which is why basketball won't really get turned upside down by the Adidas episode.
Certain programs are untouchable, which is why basketball won't really get turned upside down by the Adidas episode.
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:49 pm to Cs
Anything with big money is prone to manipulation.
Financial markets, sports, politics
Just the way of the world.
I don’t think games are rigged to the point of a winner being predetermined...but things like scheduling, one sided officiating, governing body leniency can sure as hell make things way easier or harder for teams.
Financial markets, sports, politics
Just the way of the world.
I don’t think games are rigged to the point of a winner being predetermined...but things like scheduling, one sided officiating, governing body leniency can sure as hell make things way easier or harder for teams.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:56 am to HollierThanThou
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I don’t think games are rigged to the point of a winner being predetermined...but things like scheduling, one sided officiating, governing body leniency can sure as hell make things way easier or harder for teams.
Man, wouldn’t it be great if there was no interference and we knew the better team was going to win in the end?
But, whatever. This is fine. Just don’t expect people to keep coming back for this shite product if Birmingham is going to manipulate every team’s season in one school’s favor.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:08 am to Cs
I asked these in another thread last night but the board was moving pretty fast.
If Notre Dame was in LSU's situation, would they abide by the ruling of an SEC opponent's "official process"?
If they looked at it themselves later on and decided they didn't agree, would they tell everyone to get f'ed and start the player the next game?
If Notre Dame was in LSU's situation, would they abide by the ruling of an SEC opponent's "official process"?
If they looked at it themselves later on and decided they didn't agree, would they tell everyone to get f'ed and start the player the next game?
Posted on 10/22/18 at 3:07 am to Tiger Nation 84
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supreme court over ruling. I would go all the way with this bullshite if I'm LSU and D White
The U.S. Supreme Court? Good lord.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 5:38 am to GetBackToWork
If the governor was somehow able to get a judiciary figure involved, you may have a chance at a legal angle. But, I highly doubt any will step into this......if they even can.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 6:56 am to Cs
Every sports league I’ve ever been associated with... as an athlete or a coach... from little league to high school... has featured some form of corruption. Sometimes it’s scheduling favoritism, sometimes it’s roster raiding, sometimes it’s fraternizing with officials...
I think it’s hilarious that so many of you think the NCAA and the SEC are immune to this. Like somehow it just doesn’t happen in the “big leagues,” despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary.
So it’s proven that NCAA teams pay recruits and players, use performance enhancing drugs, and spy on each other, but we draw the line at manipulating officials? Yeah, okay...
I think it’s hilarious that so many of you think the NCAA and the SEC are immune to this. Like somehow it just doesn’t happen in the “big leagues,” despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary.
So it’s proven that NCAA teams pay recruits and players, use performance enhancing drugs, and spy on each other, but we draw the line at manipulating officials? Yeah, okay...
Posted on 10/22/18 at 7:32 am to SpqrTiger
Alabama is guilty of all of those and has not ever been punished even when it was the main article on yahoo. The Bama bias is messed up. Move the Sec.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 7:35 am to BRgetthenet
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But, whatever. This is fine. Just don’t expect people to keep coming back for this shite product if Birmingham is going to manipulate every team’s season in one school’s favor.
Bingo. All of those complaining about the “whining” should consider that there is an immense, massive amount of whining regarding empty seats in the Bama student section, LSU fans leaving early, selling tickets to the opposing teams fans etc. But the Bama students knows there is zero drama in their entire schedule, any outcome other than average 28 points in 1H is nearly impossible. The LSU fans the same, they figured it out after Jan 2011. They know the whole biz model. They realize that there is a huge structural problem with the CFP and SECCG system, they know why it’s like that, they know where the league office is, they know how the schedule is determined. They know the worst thing possible is to be forced to go to the SECCG. If the outcome is known it’s hard to expect the fans to attend or even the recruits to go anywhere but Bama. It’s called killing the Golden Goose. The people calling for the league office to move to neutral state and fire anyone w SEC ties are spot on. It’s not fair to the players, students or the fans and people know it’s not. And Midget Nick is correct to be upset that the student section is empty, it should be a warning sign and alarms should be screaming throughout the conference. Instead they pull this bullshite w DWhite (which they also pulled this season with UT and Mizzoo btw) which only reinforces that the fans are correct. They better fix it or in 5 years they’ll have stadiums looking like the NFL - half empty.
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