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re: Really? Jefferson is the problem?

Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by quicksix
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:30 pm to
sone one said my dad invented the game of football MR. LES MILES only improvedd the game
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:30 pm to
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That puts Flynn at 2,910 yards, 29 TDS


flynn had 29 TD's?

really?

link me on that
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:30 pm to
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So what you imply is:
A) Lee's inabilities were fault of playcalls.
B) Playcalls are fault of Jeffersons's inabilities.
See what you did there?
Nah, you're not biased whatsoever.

You and BT can do a home project on this.
So how do you account for JL's last two '09 performances, 33%cr and 50%cr, under the same tone of playcalling?
See how you can morph that to fit your agenda.


BOOM
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:31 pm to
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flynn had 29 TD's?

really?


I didn't respond to him because it was sheer stupidity. He's adding RPs stats to Flynns for when Flynn was out due to substitution or injury.

And he called MY stats selective
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:31 pm to
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He's not looking at a receiver half the time. He's looking at an area of field or a defender that he is basing his read off of. That is how 'READS' work!



No shite. However, if that read is wrong, he doesn't know where to look NEXT. That is called inability to go through progressions.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:31 pm to
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Good job by Jefferson


agreed

bad play call to begin with however
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:32 pm to
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No shite. However, if that read is wrong, he doesn't know where to look NEXT. That is called inability to go through progressions.


He obviously is going through his progressions, we can see him do it in the video I linked. He wouldn't be hitting underneath and release routes if he wasn't going through his checks.

That's the bottom line. You may accept defeat
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:33 pm to
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And he called MY stats selective


these are the same jokers in every thread

all we need is robbboob and tojo to come in and dumb up this son of a bitch and we'll call it a day
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:33 pm to
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His first was the left wideout. Randle dragging underneath was second, he was open, he threw it to him.

Do you suggest he see the entire left side AND the entire right side?

Ever set foot on a field?


I suggest that he knows where his receivers should be if his first read is covered.

Have you every played QB? I had to know where everyone was supposed to be on the field, not just my primary receiver.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:33 pm to
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You may accept defeat


this is the rant

no one is ever wrong
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:33 pm to
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agreed

bad play call to begin with however



Only cause it didn't work
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:33 pm to
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Good job by Jefferson


Jefferson has some things he needs to continue to improve, number 1...please quit backing up to avoid the rush, flush left or right, but get the hell out of the tackle box.

But he has made some really good plays.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:33 pm to
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BT

When is the last time youve seen this offense under JJ go 75-80 yrds in 13 /14 plays?

So we have to stop scoring on the first play to give the offense time to go 75-80 yards. Now you talking stupid here. You take what they ngive you, if you can score on a 52 yard pass play then you do it, if you can score on a punt return you do it, if you can score on a reverse play from 52 yards out you do it.

LSU score 21 points in less than 5 min. and you are complaining that we did not have any long drives so makes JJ and the offense bad? How so? You tell me how that makes LSU's offense bad when you can score from any place on the field at any given time. LSU has an offense that is not depending on any one player to score they have multiple ways and individuals that can score, but yet, LSU has to stop doing that so they can take 12-15 playe inorder to score?

The other thing you all do not trust JJ at all but you had rather see him and offense take a chance in running 12-15 plays before they score. Do you know that the more plays it takes you to score is that much more of a chance that something bad will happen. Every play that every team runs is developed to score from any place on the field but they don't.

I wish you would stop all crazyness and let the season unfold and let the players get their feet underneath them. It is going to take this team several games to get the mistakes down to minimum and the QB and the recievers to learn how they run the routes in game speed. In practice you can duplicate game speed it is impossible so it will take several games.

Go back and watch offensive plays in the games in 2007 and then watch what happened in the second quarter of Saturday Night's game you will see a similarity, the explosiveness in which LSU scored with was remarkable that has not been seen since 2007. Give them time from what I saw there is a lot for this team to play off of to make themselves better.

Remember good things come to those who waite! LSU will be the team that you want to see before this season is over with. Yea they going to make mistakes, but did you watch any of the Florida game? Did you see any of the Oklahoma game, plus look at what happened to Ole Miss. Be thankful we pulled it out, I had rather have luck and win than no luck and loose.


great post

but too bad it's wasted directed at BT
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:34 pm to
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I suggest that he knows where his receivers should be if his first read is covered.


He does. I'm excited about this season Fix a few small problems (FUMBLES) and we'll be rollin.
This post was edited on 9/6/10 at 12:35 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:35 pm to
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Only cause it didn't work


well, it wasn't the best play they could have called to begin with

I know hindsight is 20/20, but wow...

there were so many missed chances in this game it's just ridiculous
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:36 pm to
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I had to know where everyone was supposed to be on the field, not just my primary receiver.


Then you have that little annoying thing like defenders, over and unders, man, defenders making mistakes.

I suppose you knew that in advance as well...right.

You did not play QB in any level of competitive football, or you would have not criticized the reads, and you would know how silly you sound.
Posted by TIsuGGER
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:36 pm to
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these are the same jokers in every thread

BTW, hows that eat crow thread working out for you?

Made you the laughing stock of the day, and put on many "ignore poster" lists
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:37 pm to
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You did not play QB in any level of competitive football, or you would have not criticized the reads, and you would know how silly you sound.


I didn't play QB at any level of competitive football either but I know enough to not bitch about a QB not forcing a throw to a TE with 2 defenders within arms reach.

Posted by bmy
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:38 pm to
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BTW, hows that eat crow thread working out for you?


If it's about Jefferson.. pretty good I would imagine. We have an SEC caliber QB now
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 12:41 pm to
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You did not play QB in any level of competitive football, or you would have not criticized the reads, and you would know how silly you sound.


I criticize his reads because they suck.

I could throw for 70% completions if I checked down to 5 yards routes each play.
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