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re: rant myths

Posted on 12/16/09 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/16/09 at 4:53 pm to
I can see you have religion on your premises here, so I am not going to get into a tit for tat with you on your assessment of the "myths", but what makes you think you have a grasp on the "facts" more so than others with differing opinions?

Like religion, there are many conflicting views and no one really knows what the actual "facts" are...especially blow hards that keep spouting their form of faith regardless of other viable input.

Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/16/09 at 4:55 pm to
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Exactly you are using your opinion
what part of what i stated was false?

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you are dismissing rivals, scouts, or anything else
i don't know what "anything else" means but i haven't dismissed rivals or scout. i said they are subjective and inexact, which is correct.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/16/09 at 4:59 pm to
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sitting on a 3 point lead running horrible running backs for 2 yards a pop when you have a first round QB and 3 top WRs was beyond horrible and classic Les Miles conservative garbage
dang max. it's been pointed out FOR YEARS NOW that when lsu did throw downfield, there was a bogus penalty called. i just checked and refgate is still on youtube if you don't remember.

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if you don't think that blaming all of Miles' shitty games on the refs is chickenshit
max, can you misrepresent me ANY MORE? i never blamed ALL of miles games on the refs and the one i did blame on the refs still has a video to prove how bogus it was. and what are all these other "games" you're referring to? he sure hasn't lost too many so this ought to be interesting.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/16/09 at 5:05 pm to
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Do you EVER have any constructive criticism of the program?
wow. this thread is an unbelievable example of how to misrepresent someone's posts. i have said for weeks now that the o line struggled all season and someone needs to answer for it. i also said that if there isn't significant improvement in the offense next season, crowton should go (barring circumstances that are beyond his control). i have said all along the defense was solid, i never said they were great.

the major trend that exists on the rant is that when things go wrong, it's the coach's fault. it's never the players that make mistakes (like lafell's crucial drops in the ole miss game), it's never luck, it's never officiating, it's never injuries, etc.

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biggest LSU homer, Miles worshiper, program crusader on the internet today
name one statement i made that was completely unreasonable.

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You remind me of the big boobed, blond cheerleader on the sidelines yelling "two bits", when we are down by 24 points in the 4th quarter.
whatever. i was just as frustrated with the defense last season as anybody. but miles fired the guys. what else could he have done, killed them too?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/16/09 at 5:10 pm to
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The goal is not to "shove him out", most reasonable people realize that Miles isn't going anywhere at least until next year
i was talking about crowton. sorry about the confusion. and no way should miles go. his 5 years at lsu is among the best ever at lsu and among the elite of college football. he's got a LONG LONG way to go before firing him is justified.

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The goal is to light a fricking fire under his arse to do a better job than he has the last two year
once again, ignoring the progress from last season. but don't you dare give him ANY credit for that.

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to let him and the administration know in no uncertain terms that the fans are restless and unhappy and deserve and want better
the "fans" you're referring to have unreasonable expectations and fortunately, lsu is smart enough to not kneejerk react with them and end up looking like nebraska re: solich.

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and to fricking act like you care when you are out there coaching instead of appearing to be a disinterested, clueless observer on the sidelines.
miles has once again proven he's not afraid to pull the trigger on coaching changes. so, he does care and isn't a passive observer. but you go on thinking he sucks despite all the ways i've shown he doesn't.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7083 posts
Posted on 12/16/09 at 5:11 pm to
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whatever. i was just as frustrated with the defense last season as anybody. but miles fired the guys. what else could he have done, killed them too?


What about the offensive responsible parties this year?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/16/09 at 5:12 pm to
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I mean just look above he discusses the FACTS as he calls them but he really just means his opinion.
how about you respond to my points and we'll figure it out?

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He can produce no facts about anything
other than what's in the op?

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attempt to dismiss and deflect what anyone else thinks.
i have addressed every comment made to me that i'm aware of. if i missed anything, you feel free to point it out.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/16/09 at 5:17 pm to
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ridiculous backpedaling (a common theme you have)
by backpedaling i assume you mean clarifying when my comments are taken out of context

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the 2006 Auburn playcalling/game plan wasn't that bed
the comments that i made and continue to make are that the playcalling wasn't what "lost" the game. the officiating played a much bigger role. but as usual, the coaching gets blamed. example: max was talking about the run game struggling. does anyone mention the o line not doing their job? nope. it's all on the coaches. forget about execution.

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I guess it was OK when we were down 4 points with less than 20 seconds left, with no timeouts on the 18 yard line, to line up in a formation with a Fullback and Tight End on the field and WR Buster Davis (future 1st round draft pick) on the bench. Only you, Les, I mean Bfnii could think that's OK.
this is EXACTLY the myopia i've been pointing out. you're reducing a huge situation to one factor but i'm the one who is wrong. the rest of the game had tons of situations just as important.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/16/09 at 5:20 pm to
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what makes you think you have a grasp on the "facts" more so than others with differing opinions?
this thread ought to be proof.

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no one really knows what the actual "facts" are...especially blow hards that keep spouting their form of faith regardless of other viable input.
so if that's the case, why do rantards continue to act like they really know what the problems are? that's all i'm trying to point out. no one really knows. but what we do know is that miles is winning and winning alot. there was a down year but the next was improved. same with meyer in '07-'08.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/16/09 at 5:20 pm to
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What about the offensive responsible parties this year?
looks like miles is making some moves, wouldn't you agree?
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81442 posts
Posted on 12/16/09 at 5:30 pm to
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example: max was talking about the run game struggling. does anyone mention the o line not doing their job? nope. it's all on the coaches. forget about execution.


so the line should blow huge holes for a fat slow Justin Vincent against a stout AU front seven no questions asked while Buster Davis, Dwayne Bowe and Early Doucet relax and discuss their NFL futures?
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7083 posts
Posted on 12/16/09 at 6:37 pm to
More like changing one of the carpenters when the architect is a moron.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/16/09 at 6:39 pm to
Did someone add in the Rant's Jefferson sucks myth?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/16/09 at 6:40 pm to
Wow. You are a real true believer, aren't you?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:25 pm to
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so the line should blow huge holes for a fat slow Justin Vincent against a stout AU front seven no questions asked while Buster Davis, Dwayne Bowe and Early Doucet relax and discuss their NFL futures?
why do you continue to ignore that lsu did throw downfield? how about the blatant p.i. on the sure td pass to lafell? that's the game winner right there.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:27 pm to
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He's part of the circle jerk brigade with bfiniii, Lonnie, and Tator.
look, i'm no miles apologist. and i'm certainly not a negatiger acting like i know what the problems are when i really don't. always reducing the complex game of football down to "coaching mistakes". that's the point of the op and the people arguing against it are proving my points.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:33 pm to
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are a real true believer, aren't you?
i'll tell you what i believe: negatigers oversimplify the issue. they totally forget that EVERY TEAM IN AMERICA has fans that complain about the offense gameplan. since that's constant, the difference is who wins and who loses. over 5 seasons, miles has kept lsu in the top 3rd of the tougest conference which is very respectable.

is there room for improvement? sure. does it warrant the vitriol displayed by negatigers? absolutely not. negatigers lack perspective.
Posted by Bert Lyons 716
Member since Jan 2006
1528 posts
Posted on 12/17/09 at 2:44 pm to
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rant myths

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if you admit the sec is the best conference, then the opposition is going to be roughly equal to lsu.



hell no


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his offense has had one really bad season



it wasn't exactly good last year


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one of those examples is byu where he was head coach, not coordinator. big difference



he ran the offense at byu


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lsu has not been in trouble with the ncaa (don't start in with the current situation. he fired the person responsible).






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he recruits well.



you disagree with this. and i quote:


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this is reductio ad absurdum. each week, the opponent's starters are basically equal to lsu's starters




part 2:


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and don't start in with the recruiting rankings. that is an incredibly subjective and inexact measurement





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he represents the university adequately.



like a moron? he's a national joke, literally


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he is adept at hiring assistants.



earl lane
mallory
peveto
crowton
stud

all fails. big fails








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You're a local joke. A pussy who talks football but was afraid to play. Until you can prove your claim of an IQ of 161,you should stay off the board.
Once again,I've offered to pay you to participate in a scrimmage and to pay for an IQ test,yet you go silent. All talk no action.
A post whore who hides behind the internet and condemns Miles when you're a gutless weasel yourself.
I bet you 5k that you won't score a 130 on a WAIS 111-R IQ test. You going to back your big talk up?
How many games have you won as a coach or player? How often do you watch guys take a leak in men's rooms?
Before you call someone a joke,go look in the mirror.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33267 posts
Posted on 12/17/09 at 3:29 pm to
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bfniii
You should give up. When you have Bert Lyons 16, the resident moron, agreeing with you and :fail: quoting post after post, it's time to stop.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33267 posts
Posted on 12/17/09 at 3:41 pm to
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i was talking about crowton. sorry about the confusion. and no way should miles go. his 5 years at lsu is among the best ever at lsu and among the elite of college football. he's got a LONG LONG way to go before firing him is justified.
Crowton should be shoved out. He's made a complete mess of things and doesn't know how to coach what he's got, which is a goldmine. Sorry, I thought you were talking about Miles.

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nce again, ignoring the progress from last season. but don't you dare give him ANY credit for that.
The only credit I give him credit for his hiring Chavis, and he waited until the 11th hour for that. For what reason, name even one credible reason, would you want Maleveto in here for the bowl game? They were utter failures, Miles wanted them to get paid, and get paid for FAILING. That is wrong. Chavis should have been here earlier to get his system installed. That said, i would have fired the bastards in mid season, we couldn't have been any worse, and possibly would have been better as the damage they did carried over into this year.

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the "fans" you're referring to have unreasonable expectations and fortunately, lsu is smart enough to not kneejerk react with them and end up looking like nebraska re: solich.
The "Fans" know what they see on the field, and the product is starting to stink. Admins, just like the gov't, are slow to react and slow to make changes unless they have pressure from the outside. We, like the media, can create that pressure. Sitting around watching the program decline while the admins sit and count their millions from tickets sales is a recipe for disaster.

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miles has once again proven he's not afraid to pull the trigger on coaching changes. so, he does care and isn't a passive observer. but you go on thinking he sucks despite all the ways i've shown he doesn't.
I was talking about "on the field" passion, not making some off the field coaching change 6 months too late (which he has done and now appears to be doing with Crowton). If Miles doesn't want his ship to sink, he better start getting more involved on the sidelines, getting in his coaches and players faces and letting them know what he expects them to do and getting his team fired up. On the sidelines now he looks like my bored Uncle at my 2nd cousins 6th birthday.
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