re: rant myths

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the past 2 years we've been dominated by 3 of our closest rivals (bama

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we were beating them after 3 quarters at their place when our starting rb and qb left the game. if mcelory and ingram left that game at the same point, lsu wins comfortably.

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is "top 3rd of the SEC" good enough for $4M a year?

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FINALLY!!!!!! someone asks the most relevant question of the season.

the answer is without a doubt yes (as far as wins and losses). if you say no, you are myopic and part of the problem as an lsu fan. not even spurrier could top that.

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I hope not, but if he can go undefeated with jpw and gm at the helm then I'm certainly not going to doubt him.

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then you haven't observed sec football for the last 2 or 3 decades

this is retarded

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It's your turn to prove that LSU considered other stuff when they gave him that increase.

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wow. if he were winning it all every year but the program was about to get the ncaa death penalty, would they keep him around? no. so, the money isn't the only way to tell what all he is responsible for, right? please, stop with the money. you know he's resonsible for much more than just winning but you don't want to admit it because you would have to give him credit for doing a good job at those things.

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Reality Tiger

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so you disagree that miles is evaluated on recruiting, representing the university, ncaa compliance, hiring assistants as well as winning games?

DON'T DO IT. because if you do, you might have to give miles some credit for doing things coaches are responsible for.

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the point is that rantards can't have it both ways. the sec can't both be the best conference and lsu have a monopoly on talent which then covers up miles' failures

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yes, it can

UF and Bama are now more talented than LSU b/c saban and meyer are better recruiters and developers

there is a HUGE gap b/w florida and vandy or MSU

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. i wonder why those in the college football community thought enough to hire him at a big time job

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les, a coach with a shaky history in hiring coaches, hired him after this failure

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i would say that everything i've heard is that michigan brass want him.

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that's why lloyd car led a revolution against miles last time, b/c he's so well-respected by UM?

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you want him to never have made any mistakes. ever. that's realistic.

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where does a requirement of 0 mistakes get born out of discussing an offense ranked in the 100s (out of 120 teams)?

that's a SHITLOAD of mistakes to get there

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or, the team got better. they could have lost but didn't.

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like AU in 2008? Troy in 2008? same arguments for 2008

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we'll see what happens next year. chavis' second year so the defense should be solid again.

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it wasn't that great this year

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the problem is that rantards don't understand you don't just shove someone out without A VERY GOOD REPLACEMENT.

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or we just are mad that les fricked up another coaching hire

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this is reductio ad absurdum.

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hot dang it! the rant done gone and got us a lawyer.

your post is spot on. it hits the nail on the head. it gets to the heart of the matter. it pierces the center of the target. it is perfectamundo.

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i've proven that point multiple times now

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How with your opinion?
Where are the numbers?
What are you using to prove this?

So far I have only seen opinions and rebuttals of opinions, no actual facts or numbers.

well his response to that is

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i wonder why those in the college football community thought enough to hire him at a big time job

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"those in the college football community" = les freaking miles

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rant myths
the best statement i've heard recently is that the rant is damaged beyond repair.

ex a: miles' success is because of talent. as usual, this is reductio ad absurdum. each week, the opponent's starters are basically equal to lsu's starters (and don't start in with the recruiting rankings. that is an incredibly subjective and inexact measurement). since that's the case, miles HAS TO BE doing something right other than living off someone else's recruiting or being good at recruiting himself. if you admit the sec is the best conference, then the opposition is going to be roughly equal to lsu. according to rantards, miles gets "outcoached". how is it possible he continues to keep lsu in the top 3rd of the sec?

ex b: crowton sucks. everybody relax. his offense has had one really bad season. give him a chance to improve the situation. and don't bring up the thread that shows his offenses get worse. one of those examples is byu where he was head coach, not coordinator. big difference. the other couple of examples were based on two year stints which hardly constitutes as proof that crowton's offenses regress.

ex c: miles can't manage a game/gets outcoached. this statement is just plain ignorant. tons of coaching decisions are made every game. no coach is perfect. people continually blame miles for "mistakes" but completely ignore mistakes made by other coaches in games. and btw, those other coaches always end up ranked higher than miles yet miles continues to have more success. how is that possible? furthermore, no in game decision or gameplan loses a game for a team. football is a complex sport with many variables; execution, officiating, weather/environment, injuries, scheduling, team chemistry and plain old, blind luck. besides, it's not all about the head coach. it's about the entire staff and lsu has a good one. that's why lsu continues to have success.

ex d: miles isn't earning his paycheck. mistakes like in the ole miss game are unacceptable for his paygrade. miles isn't SOLELY payed to win games. miles is paid to do ALOT of things, among which winning games is one of them. lsu has not been in trouble with the ncaa (don't start in with the current situation. he fired the person responsible). he recruits well. he has an acceptable graduation rate. he represents the university adequately. he is adept at hiring assistants. if you want to think that winning games tops the list for his evaluation then, you should be happy he is keeping lsu in the top 3rd of the toughest conference in america.

i never thought any rant myth would surpass the offense playcalling in the auburn '06 game but, it's actually happened.

edited for people who take things out of context.

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