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re: Quit blaming Etling....
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:17 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:17 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
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He was under intense pressure all night and look at the passes that were dropped.....want to bench him already? Really? Geeze...
I agree. I don't blame Etling at all.
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:18 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
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Quit blaming Etling....
Etling was 1-9 for 4 yards and a sack on 3rd down. The lone completion was a 4 yard gain on 3rd and 15.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:19 pm to the_watcher
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Realistically should have been 17/29 for 220 yards 1 TD and no INTs.
I can play this game too
(12:20 - 4th) Danny Etling pass complete to Darrel Williams for 19 yds to the MisSt 46 for a 1ST down
(11:45 - 4th) Danny Etling pass complete to Darrel Williams for 18 yds to the MisSt 27 for a 1ST down
(10:22 - 4th) Danny Etling pass complete to J.D. Moore for 6 yds to the MisSt 25
(7:28 - 4th) Danny Etling pass complete to Foster Moreau for 2 yds to the LSU 49
He had 137 yards total. 45 of them were by checking the ball down in the 4th quarter to Williams, Moore, or Moreau while Mississippi State was in a prevent defense due to them being up by 30 points.
I think you're confusing my post with an argument that Etling had a good game. Etling is mediocre at best and won't win us any games, I just don't think he's even close to the reason we lost.
I just said his stats are much worse than they should've been and 99% of the time, that level of QB play is enough to beat MSU.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:22 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
While you cant blame this loss on Danny, its pretty clear his supporting cast and Defense isn't nearly as good as we thought. Therefore, I think you have to go another route just to see what you've got in Brennan. The team that played Saturday night is maybe a 7-5 team. I think we can all agree that's not good enough.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:23 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
I agree this game was not Etling's fault at all. He played about how we expected him to play.
That being said, if there is a better guy behind him then you play that guy. If you want to be a real contender then you don't need a game manager at QB, you need a threat at QB. Brennan might be that guy. There is a lot to learn about Brennan's skill set though.
That being said, if there is a better guy behind him then you play that guy. If you want to be a real contender then you don't need a game manager at QB, you need a threat at QB. Brennan might be that guy. There is a lot to learn about Brennan's skill set though.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:28 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I think you're confusing my post with an argument that Etling had a good game. Etling is mediocre at best and won't win us any games, I just don't think he's even close to the reason we lost.
I don't think I was. You said realistically he should have been 17/29 for 220. I'm saying that is unrealistic as he padded his stats by checking the ball down facing a prevent defense in the fourth quarter while being down 30 points.
I also fail to see how him having 70 more pass yards due to a cornerback falling on the ground leaving his man unguarded is supposed to make any fan feel better about the qb situation. We didn't lose the game because of him but the passing game was putrid because of him. He's the only player on the team who passes the ball. Again he was 1-9 for 4 yards on third down.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:34 pm to Space Cowboy
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Ever since Miles was fired, this place has become unhinged.
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Member since Oct 2016
Go figure.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:40 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
Is that video clip out yet that shows every throw that usually comes out weekly?
Based on fairly sober recollection I feel pretty confident that the video evidence will vindicate Etling for the most part.
Based on fairly sober recollection I feel pretty confident that the video evidence will vindicate Etling for the most part.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:46 pm to the_watcher
college football has changed, about the only school that gets away with a game manager at QB anymore is Bama and its even bitten them in the arse a few times.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:47 pm to Bear Is Dead
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While you cant blame this loss on Danny, its pretty clear his supporting cast and Defense isn't nearly as good as we thought. Therefore, I think you have to go another route just to see what you've got in Brennan.
Great idea, maybe Freshmen Brennan's supporting cast and defense will play better than we thought.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:47 pm to slackster
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Ever since Miles was fired, this place has become unhinged.
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Member since Oct 2016
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:49 pm to BilJ
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criticizing his poor play isn't blaming him for everything. I have never seen so many fans lined up to defend a mediocre talent like Etling. He isn't the problem, you're right. But our upside is extremely limited with him running the offense, that can't be denied
No fricking shite he's mediocre. No one is saying differently but if you or anyone thinks putting Myles fricking Brennan in there is going to "turn this team around" you are as delusional and ignorant and Alleva was for hiring O.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:50 pm to TheCaterpillar
Realistically should have been 17/29 for 220 yards 1 TD and no INTs.
You mean 2 touchdowns.
You mean 2 touchdowns.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:04 pm to Ole Geauxt
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Great idea, maybe Freshmen Brennan's supporting cast and defense will play better than we thought.
Maybe Brennan is better than Etling. Cant hurt to find out, unless you really believe this team can turn it around as is.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:07 pm to AshLSU
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No one is saying differently but if you or anyone thinks putting Myles fricking Brennan in there is going to "turn this team around" you are as delusional and ignorant and Alleva was for hiring O.
This team isn't going 7-2 down the stretch. IMO if you aren't ok with 8-4 or worse, you have to do something to change things up.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:11 pm to BilJ
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Quit blaming Etling.... by BilJ
criticizing his poor play isn't blaming him for everything.
I have never seen so many fans lined up to defend a mediocre talent like Etling. He isn't the problem, you're right. But our upside is extremely limited with him running the offense, that can't be denied
Agree. He is a good thrower but doesn't have the strongest arm.
He can't scramble. So our offensive play calling is limited to his skill set.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:16 pm to the_watcher
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I don't think I was. You said realistically he should have been 17/29 for 220. I'm saying that is unrealistic as he padded his stats by checking the ball down facing a prevent defense in the fourth quarter while being down 30 points.
I also fail to see how him having 70 more pass yards due to a cornerback falling on the ground leaving his man unguarded is supposed to make any fan feel better about the qb situation. We didn't lose the game because of him but the passing game was putrid because of him. He's the only player on the team who passes the ball. Again he was 1-9 for 4 yards on third down.
I don't think anyone is claiming Etling is elite. Do you deny that Gage dropped a pass that hit him in the hands and face on 3rd down or the dropped pass down the seam to Chark or the dropped pass by Dillon on the crossing route or the pass to Gage on 3rd down that was low but still hit him in the hands?
So his 66 yard TD to Chark that was negated due to a bad call should not be considered due to the CB being blocked off his route? Fitzgerald had the 45 yard TD when our DB was shielded and no one in sight. Without that he has 135 yards passing.
I'd like to see some video of our WRs getting separation because I didn't see it Saturday unless they were Miss St WRs. Even the analysts mentioned his WRs were not getting their head around in time on routes.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:24 pm to AshLSU
save the season? Nah
I think brennan can add a more vertical element to the offense that Etling simply cannot because he lacks decent arm strength. But right now from what I've seen, he holds onto to ball a little long which spells disaster with this OL.
I think brennan can add a more vertical element to the offense that Etling simply cannot because he lacks decent arm strength. But right now from what I've seen, he holds onto to ball a little long which spells disaster with this OL.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:32 pm to Bear Is Dead
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This team isn't going 7-2 down the stretch. IMO if you aren't ok with 8-4 or worse, you have to do something to change things up.
Like get all 190 lbs of Miles Brennan broke in half by teams like Bama? Yeah, no thanks. Rather see him spend a year getting some muscle and weight on before we feed him to the wolves.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:36 pm to BayouCowboy
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I don't think anyone is claiming Etling is elite
Of course they aren't.
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Do you deny that Gage dropped a pass that hit him in the hands and face on 3rd down or the dropped pass down the seam to Chark
Do I deny something that happened actually happened? LINK
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So his 66 yard TD to Chark that was negated due to a bad call should not be considered due to the CB being blocked off his route?
No dude. That's the entire point. He threw a football 25 yards to a guy completely uncovered. Every qb in america can make that throw. This is how bad we have got as a fanbase regarding passing. We want the qb to get credit for completing a pass against complete air.
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