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re: QB situation next year.

Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:48 am to
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:48 am to
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why not throw shep in there to see how he does?



He will have not played QB for 4 years.

We have, arguably, one of the most talented QB's in the country next year.

So, no. There will be no 'throwing him in there to see how he does'.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:50 am to
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The only knock on him coming out of high school was accuracy and decision-making


And height. I think this may be the only thing where Jefferson had the clear advantage over JR coming in.


But I think the difference between this situation and the other 2 maybe is that RP and Lee in '10 and JJ in '11 is that the 2nd QBs in all those years were also the 2nd string QBs. By all accounts, Miles mentioned Rivers would be the guy behind Mett this year in a disaster situation. If Rivers emerges as #2 going into the fall, I'm not sure Les would be quite as likely to play #3. We'll see.
Posted by beenHADdat
Port Allen, LA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:53 am to
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A true dual-threat, he is a better running threat than Jefferson is right now. The only knock on him coming out of high school was accuracy and decision-making (sound familiar) - hopefully he is getting better fundamental coaching (or taking to it, depending on to whom you listen) than Jefferson did his first few years


i know what you're saying, but the thing with Randall, they're determined to make him a QB, wasnt that way with Shepard. Randall may never develope into a great passer but but he will most likely be part of a 2 QB system his whole career and LSU and be our wild cat QB where teams would have to respect him as a passer but will most probably be very effective with his legs
This post was edited on 11/11/11 at 9:56 am
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:54 am to
I think you def see Randall next year as the backup and complement to Mett. But like someone else said it will prob be 80-20 to 90-10 Mett to Randall.

and who knows. You need to get Randall some experience in case of injury or maybe even if Mett lights it up and decides to go pro after a year.
Posted by BayouBndt
Shreveport
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:56 am to
It would be better if we had a dual threat who was average at throwing the ball. I think it takes a QB out of his rhythm when you pull him for a few seriews. And a dual threat guy doesn't have to be a great passer.
Posted by ATH216
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:56 am to
I've heard a lot of hype about the pure arm strength of Randall that you wouldn't expect from a guy of his size. Heard at a combine he threw a ball 80 yards.. Plus the kid can roll, I wanna say he ran a 4.4 so why not give it a shot? With Mett next year slinging the ball all over the place I wouldn't mind seeing a Wild Tiger type deal with Randall. Like people have said, it's just another thing defenses have to prepare for.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:57 am to
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Personally, I am looking for Mett to be spectacular,


And that really depends on o-line play with a pro-style QB. We saw this in the game with Bama. We struggled with the pro-style offense. It wasn't until we were able to run the option and spread out the Bama D and force 11 on 11 situation were we able to execute adequately on offense.

Does anyone on the "inside" know of Randell's progress at the QB position? I know the question is probably a little premature (spring is probably more appropriate) but I'm just putting it out there.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:58 am to
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He was highly recruited. He has been a pleasant surprise on the scout team. Miles went out of the way to mention him early, vis-a-vis the preparation he gave the team for the mobile QBs we faced early.

A true dual-threat, he is a better running threat than Jefferson is right now. The only knock on him coming out of high school was accuracy and decision-making (sound familiar) - hopefully he is getting better fundamental coaching (or taking to it, depending on to whom you listen) than Jefferson did his first few years


Posted by beenHADdat
Port Allen, LA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 9:59 am to
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Miles mentioned Rivers would be the guy behind Mett this year in a disaster situation. If Rivers emerges as #2 going into the fall, I'm not sure Les would be quite as likely to play #3. We'll see.


Rivers would be listed as #2 on the depth chart behind mett and randall #3, but u will see more of randall than u will of rivers because les loves the 2 QB system and will have a pro-style offense with mett, then rivers after mett is gone, and a wild cat/spread type offense with randall
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 10:02 am to
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And height.


He's not tall, true, but at 6'0" or 6'1", that's plenty of height for a true dual-threat.

quote:

Miles mentioned Rivers would be the guy behind Mett this year in a disaster situation.


I heard him say the opposite, mid-season (just a couple of games ago).

(And you can't trust a word out of Miles' mouth on stuff like this, anyway.)
This post was edited on 11/11/11 at 10:03 am
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 10:04 am to
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Heard at a combine he threw a ball 80 yards.. Plus the kid can roll, I wanna say he ran a 4.4


I just caught wood.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 10:13 am to
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I just caught wood.


Yeah, Scout had him at 4.46. If he were just a little taller, little heavier and a little more accurate, he'd be a faster Cam Newton.
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 10:19 am to
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And that really depends on o-line play with a pro-style QB. We saw this in the game with Bama. We struggled with the pro-style offense. It wasn't until we were able to run the option and spread out the Bama D and force 11 on 11 situation were we able to execute adequately on offense.


True....But.... there are ways to neutralize that, quick routes... curls, outs, timing routes off a 2 or 3 step drop... (i love JL, so dont take my head off Rant), and a more complete QB can execute these things.... It would have backed the D off or else we would have picked em apart... But obviously that wasnt an option... But with Mett, I think he will bring all that to the table..IMO
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 10:37 am to
You will see JR next year regardless of how good or bad JR is at QB. Who else is going to play QB when LSU has a 45-0 lead?
Posted by beenHADdat
Port Allen, LA
Member since Sep 2011
423 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 10:42 am to
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You will see JR next year regardless of how good or bad JR is at QB. Who else is going to play QB when LSU has a 45-0 lead?


Rivers??
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 11/11/11 at 10:47 am to
Les likes to use both styles of QB in games when it is advantageous for him. ZM will play a MAJORITY of the snaps next year and move the offense. The only time that Randall gets in the game would likely be goal line work to just to spell Mett.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 11:18 am to
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True....But.... there are ways to neutralize that, quick routes... curls, outs, timing routes off a 2 or 3 step drop... (i love JL, so dont take my head off Rant), and a more complete QB can execute these things.... It would have backed the D off or else we would have picked em apart... But obviously that wasnt an option... But with Mett, I think he will bring all that to the table..IMO


I get what you are saying but at the college level there simply is not enough time during the week for the QBs and WRs to practice and perfect a full array of quick outs, timing routes, back shoulder trows, etc. At least this year there seems to be a few plays with these type of throws under Kragthorpe. I've already seen the JL to RR back shoulder throw successful a few times. (Under Crowton they were non-existent). The point is, with a limited number of perfected "timing routes" (which is indefensible if run perfectly which is extremely rare at the college level) good defenses (a la Bama, Florida) can defend against these passes. When that happens, Met as no where to go. At least a dual treat QB can rely on his feet when a play breaks down and it also forces defenses to guard against the option.

Met is going to be a good QB. However I would caution everyone about elevated exceptions. We have to put the exceptions for Met in perspective. When Met was at UGA he did beat Murray out of a starting position however not by much and Murray is younger than Met. Murray is an okay SEC QB but he is not necessarily tearing it up. With Murray as a baseline, my exceptions for Met are slightly better QB play than Murray next year. Is that BCS championship level of QB play? Is that a sufficient level of QB play to get us though the rigors of the SEC without an L? I don't think so. That's were Randall come in. I hope he's up to the task next season because I really think we will need his legs to make another championship run.
Posted by ElEsYouTigahs
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 11:21 am to
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i know what you're saying, but the thing with Randall, they're determined to make him a QB, wasnt that way with Shepard.


I dont think you do know what he was saying. He was comparing to JJ, not RS
Posted by just me
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 11:26 am to
I would expect Randall to be the more likely candidate to replace Mett when he leaves than Rivers.
Posted by sug314
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Posted on 11/11/11 at 11:27 am to
I think we will finally have our "Peyton Manning" in Mett, & he will only leave the field for a trick play or prevention of injury. Book it!
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