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re: Pretty funny by Guilbeau
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:easy roger no need to get agitated we're just talking.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber quote: What did JJ do in the Bama game JL couldn't have done to win the game? srsly? To win the game. Yes. You do understand what that means, right?
JJ ran the option with michael ford in the Bama game to help us win the game. He runs these plays better than JL. Are you saying we win that game without JJ?
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:14 pm to Lacour
frick Guilbeau
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What did JJ do to win the game? JJ didn't win the game.
Not turning the ball over, scrambling for some first downs, running some really good option plays won the game for lsu, roger.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:15 pm to OBUDan
quote:What? It's the point of the article.
That's not the point he was making with those quotes.
quote:See!
Shep was "barely" eligibile vs. WVU and got in on the first 5 plays. What's your point?
quote:Agree. Still, JJ has played in the first half of every game, even when things were going smoothly. We were struggling last night against a crap team, and no Lee until late. You really can't see this?
His job is to win games. If JJ helps your team do this, in any capacity, it would be a mistake to NOT use him.
Same should absolutely be said of Jarrett Lee.
quote:If Miles played JJ so long for the purpose of making JJ better, than I agree with the decision. I just don't know that that's why it was done. BTW, GG said,
However, I also belive that Miles realizes what he has in Lee: a dependable game manager who is going to get rid of the ball fast, will operate the offense and make simple reads and throws and move the chains. He doesn't need Lee to work on that against WKU.
quote:
Now this. Maybe Miles was just giving Jefferson some time to make up for lost time from his arrest and will return Lee to his rightful place as starter next week at Ole Miss
If that's the case, I have no issue with it. neither does Glen with whom you so vehemently disagree.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:15 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Did you watch this years game?
What did JJ do in the Bama game JL couldn't have done to win the game?
INT's wasn't scoring LSU any points when they are thrown by LSU QB's.
I can't understand how some people here can be so shortsighted when trying to defend something that is or isn't there.
I usually never agree with Dan, but in this instant he is right. Or as the ghey people here say "spot on"
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:16 pm to drexyl
quote:
JJ ran the option with michael ford in the Bama game to help us win the game. He runs these plays better than JL. Are you saying we win that game without JJ?
Are you saying LSU couldn't have won that game with Lee pitching the ball to Ford? Or running another play? Or kicking the FG from a longer distance.
LSU could be 10-0 with either one of these guys, and without the other.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I disagree, but why not have both.
LSU could be 10-0 with either one of these guys, and without the other.
It's like going to battle with one jet fighter when you have 2.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:18 pm to AlxTgr
quote:I honestly don't give a shite about this. I don't think victory was ever in question in that game. Ever. Miles wanted JJ to get reps in certain plays and formations and he did. We could have won that game with spencer ware at QB.
We were struggling last night against a crap team, and no Lee until late. You really can't see this?
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:18 pm to BeeFense5
quote:
Not turning the ball over, scrambling for some first downs, running some really good option plays won the game for lsu, roger.
JJ didn't win the game. In fact, in regulation the offense scored as many points with Lee as without him.
You are making WAY too many assumptions if you believe it took JJ to win the game. Every game this season was within the realm of both of these guys to play on the winning side.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Are you saying LSU couldn't have won that game with Lee pitching the ball to Ford? Or running another play? Or kicking the FG from a longer distance.
Lee pitching to ford wouldn't win the game. The option and the dual threat of the qb opened the field more. Im not sure how you didn't see this.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:19 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
If Miles played JJ so long for the purpose of making JJ better, than I agree with the decision.
I do as well.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:20 pm to drexyl
quote:Or Randle or Shep or Magee....
We could have won that game with spencer ware at QB.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
You are making WAY too many assumptions if you believe it took JJ to win the game. Every game this season was within the realm of both of these guys to play on the winning side.
Not sure what your argument is. JJ played well enough to help the team win that bama game. The way lee was playing was not indicative of a qb that was going to lead the team to victory.
This post was edited on 11/13/11 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:21 pm to Cadello
quote:
INT's wasn't (weren't) scoring LSU any points when they are thrown by LSU QB's.
Not all of us are as clairvoyant as yourself.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:22 pm to Cadello
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quote:
LSU could be 10-0 with either one of these guys, and without the other.
I disagree, but why not have both.
I have argued for both for 4 years now. That's not the argument.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:22 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
We were struggling last night against a crap team, and no Lee until late. You really can't see this?
Look at JJ's first half numbers when we were "struggling." They were stellar.
Then we blow up the lead later in the game, and JJ wasn't playing particularly well.
Are you really blaming the close first half of last night on JJ's play? I'm not understanding this, because he played well in the first half.
quote:
If that's the case, I have no issue with it. neither does Glen with whom you so vehemently disagree.
GG is a shite stirrer, and you've acknowledged as much.
What I disagree with is him writing childish quotes about Miles letting JJ ride in with Mike the Tiger and yatta yatta. I've said that clearly throughout. They are pathetic quotes. I don't really care what the rest of the article says, because those quotes say enough.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:that's exactly what I'm saying. Without JJ running the option we lose against Bama. You disagree and that's fine.
Are you saying LSU couldn't have won that game with Lee pitching the ball to Ford? Or running another play?
quote:we are 10-0 with both guys so why does it matter? Both guys have played and contributed the best start to a season since 1958. Miles believes he needs both guys and he got us this far so I'm choosing to trust in his decisions to see where we go.
LSU could be 10-0 with either one of these guys, and without the other.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:23 pm to BeeFense5
quote:
Lee pitching to ford wouldn't win the game. The option and the dual threat of the qb opened the field more. Im not sure how you didn't see this.
For three points? Didn't you see that LSU already had 3 pts when JJ came in the game?
LSU could have won with either QB. To say otherwise is blind, biased speculation.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:23 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
We could have won that game with spencer ware at QB.
Or Randle or Shep or Magee....
Posted on 11/13/11 at 6:25 pm to south bama tiger
quote:
had to laugh at the replay because Landry was wide open, waving his arms around, waiting for Jefferson to throw it. It wasn't until JJ scrambled right that he threw the ball. And then Landry had to come back and make a great catch.
So receivers have not had to make great catches Lee has thrown or Lee hasn't missed open receivers??? GTFO.
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