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re: Play Calling Response Thread

Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:15 pm to
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
29509 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:15 pm to
What is your point again? I think I got lost.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40033 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

I think I got lost.

So did he.
Posted by Dj-PQ
Member since Jul 2013
32 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:17 pm to
Tahel(gayest name ever)and graychef: BIGGEST IDIOTS ON TIGER DROPPINGS. Go back to high school and re-watch the game before you respond to this thread again. Can't stand arguing with high schoolers on here.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
29509 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:18 pm to
LOL

You haven't brought one coherent post yet. At least coop is properly stating his case, even if I'm not sure where it's going.
Posted by Dj-PQ
Member since Jul 2013
32 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

Here is the entire LSU vs Wisconsin game. Maybe you should try rewatching it without the emotional high from the comeback. Make sure you reflect back upon all the things I've said and learn to understand I'm right.


You can't argue with these 17 year old clowns. One day they will grow up and realize what's happening. Shut your mouth boys, the grown folks are talking
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6707 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

What is your point again? I think I got lost.


I think he posted wall of numbers to show that all the 40+ second half passes was what opened up the holes for Kenny to gain yards late... and not that 3 quarters of pounding them with the run which knocked out a couple Wisky d-line players had anything to do with it.

Unfortunately wall of numbers doesn't make up for ignorance.

ETA: Oh wait, there wasn't many second half passes. Silly me.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6707 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

ahel(gayest name ever)and graychef: BIGGEST IDIOTS ON TIGER DROPPINGS. Go back to high school and re-watch the game before you respond to this thread again. Can't stand arguing with high schoolers on here.


LOL classic.

Where to start...
Posted by Jthomley
Arkansas
Member since Oct 2013
379 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:23 pm to
My 14 yr old son knows what plays r next. It has been this way and will continue to be so. My ? Is ok if miles wants the ball ran , why not spread the players and try and run it outside , instead of crowding the line and running it up the middle ?? Saban is a very stubborn coach , even he has decided to run no huddle and spread offense.
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7590 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:23 pm to
I'll actually reply to you. You've come back with statistics and backing to actual statement instead of name calling bs.

Basically in essence a problem is the LSU coaching staff. That they stubbornly do things that don't work and will continue to do them. Vs most the lesser competition(besides Arkansas and Ole Miss) this strategy works and we win, and everyone cheers.

But stubbornly forcing a power game that isn't there will cost us games if it isn't fixed. Ex: LSU vs Alabama 2013

Adapt or die. If they stack the box spread them out and run or pass. As you'd see if you rewatched the Wisconsin game. We were effective out of the spread. That effectiveness made them change their game plan. Which is why LSU could return to their original game plan and played smash mouth till they restacked the box.

At that point we went back to the power game against a stacked box, and was not successful.

LSU has the athletes to be a very effective high octane offense both running and passing the football. I'm tired of mediocre play calling costing us games.

Good day graychef and
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
29509 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

Dj-PQ


The theme of this thread, one you started no less, is that LSU ran the ball too much early on and should've passed more. On agreement with you, coop wrote:

quote:

A lot of 1st down run, 2nd down run, 3rd down(around 3rd and 5-7 yards) pass.


This was disproven. LSU passed more on first down in the 1st half than in the 2nd. Adjustments were made by formation mostly that allowed some openings.
Posted by PortCityTiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
6640 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

lso took injuries to 2/3rds of their defensive line and their heisman caliber running back to have a comeback. Sorry you also couldn't comprehend the talent level between the two teams. That LSU could lose Robinson and still put out a better CB than Wisconsin could field.


Our coaching staff made some great adjustments and got the win. Why can't you people be happy with a damn win. You think those players got hurt by slipping and falling down?!? They were hurt because we were hammering them! I like to see us spread em out too at times but don't act like our physicality early in the game didn't wear down on their defense.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 8:28 pm
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19228 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:29 pm to
This guy has to be an alter
Posted by PortCityTiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
6640 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:29 pm to
Has to be
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6707 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

Our coaching staff made some great adjustments and got the win. Why can't you people be happy with a damn win. You think those players got hurt by slipping and falling down?!? They were hurt because we were hammering them! I like to see us spread em out too at times but don't act like our physicality early in the game didn't wear down on their defense.


Good to see SOME people get it.
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7590 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:31 pm to
Alright Geaux Tahel: I will slowly lay this out for you and not use numbers. I am sorry simple things like 1st and 10 were confusing to you.

First Drive of the 4th Quarter: Wisconsin was in a 3-4 defense stacking the box. LSU comes out and has 2 big passing plays in the drive that leads to a touchdown. Much shock, much awe.

Second Drive of the 4th Quarter: Wisconsin comes out into a nickel formation to stop the passing attack, knowing they couldn't stop it in the 3-4. LSU returns to the power game and at this point can gash Wisconsin in the nickel.

Third Drive of the 4th Quarter: The pre mentioned drive where Wisconsin goes back to the 3-4 defense and LSU comes out and tries to power. LSU is ineffective in the power, the only promising play coming out of the spread. And LSU punts.

Fourth Drive of the 4th Quarter: LSU gets the first day by one yard. Tigers kneel. Game over. Much celebration. Everyone

If there is any confusion I am sorry for I no longer can help you. I cannot explain it any simpler than this.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
16878 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

Adapt or die

Isn't this what we did to win the game? If the coaching staff was as stubborn about the gameplan as you're arguing, then why did you say things began to change when we adapted and went "pass happy" in the 2nd half? (Which has been disproven)
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
29509 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:35 pm to
I'm not sure you can single out a couple of drives and not acknowledge all the plays of all the drives. Sure, those resulted in points but they were built on previous plays.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

I wish we had A offense as good as A & M??? SURE. But why don't we... With ALL this so-called talent... Why can't Les and his VERY HIGHLY paid OC provide us with this?????


yet A&M doesn't win trophies. and their offense is most definitely prone to being shut down. at least by us.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6707 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:40 pm to
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Alright Geaux Tahel: I will slowly lay this out for you and not use numbers. I am sorry simple things like 1st and 10 were confusing to you.


Stopped reading right there. Let me explain since you are so dense. Wall of numbers had nothing to do with why everyone thinks you are an idiot. It's the OPINIONS, and injections you inaccurately spew along with them. Tell the truth I didn't read a single wall of number because the problem you fail to notice is not your ability to copy/paste. It's, as many people here have stated, it's your lack of football knowledge you "attach" to the numbers.

But hey whatever. It was the passing game that wore down the UW front. It was the passing game that injured those 2 wisky linemen. And ya, LSU couldn't have dominated because they actually had to punt with 2 minutes left right?

I could go on and on about your incredibly ignorant posts and NONE of them had to do with wall of numbers.

Copy/pasting doesn't make a moron smart.

But hey, whatever makes you sleep at night son.
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7590 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:41 pm to
One of those injuries came from an injured neck in the 1st quarter. And the other had a knee injury in the third. You have got to be kidding me.

That's not wearing them out. That's just bad luck with an injury.
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