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re: Pitching Staff
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:31 pm to WestCoastTigah
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:31 pm to WestCoastTigah
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WestCoastTigah
I would just suggest you stop posting...you're really embarrassing yourself now.
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Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:33 pm to clownbaby
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ANSWER MY QUESTION AS TO WHAT FACTORS YOU TOOK INTO ACCOUNT WHEN YOU FORMED YOUR OPINION OF THESE 2 PITCHERS
projectability
velocity
body type
ability to locate
mound presence
fielding
big game pitching
development throughout season
I am sure I am missing some things but when I think of them I will be sure to let you know.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:33 pm to MOT
You say Bradshaw belongs in that long relief/spot starter role,yet that's where he was the majority of last season. In his 4 starts he won 3 of them how is that mediocrity?!?!? Also, you continually downplay Ott's role last year when HE WAS THE KEY TO OUR ENTIRE STAFF!!! Once he proved he could be the closer, Mainieri could move Coleman into the Saturday slot, Ross to the Sunday slot and Bradshaw into the pen.
The only legitimate point you've made is that Bradshaw should be in the bullpen. Where you lose any credibility you might have gained from making that point is that Bradshaw was in that role the majority of last year
The only legitimate point you've made is that Bradshaw should be in the bullpen. Where you lose any credibility you might have gained from making that point is that Bradshaw was in that role the majority of last year
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:36 pm to LsuTool
Yes they are the ones who got him into position to get all those saves and also give him the confide ce to go out there and leave it all out there because if he blows the save the offense will be right behind him to cleanup the mess and pull out the W.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:37 pm to clownbaby
I'll take 4-0 all day from a sophmore in a long relief/ spot start role. You can project him all you want. I'm not worried about what he does at the next level. If he helps win championships (which he does whether you see it or not) I'll take him on my team all day
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:38 pm to WestCoastTigah
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Yes they are the ones who got him into position to get all those saves and also give him the confide ce to go out there and leave it all out there because if he blows the save the offense will be right behind him to cleanup the mess and pull out the W
So LSU was the home team when he got all of his saves?
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:38 pm to clownbaby
Bradshaw should never start. He needs to be a middle to long relief guy. I never said he should even spot start unless it is a complete throwaway game like Mainieri makes weekday games. I still don't want to see him start even then.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:39 pm to WestCoastTigah
What about the starter that kept the other teams from putting runs on the board?
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:40 pm to LsuTool
When did I say that? There is such a creation as extra innings.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:41 pm to WestCoastTigah
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projectability
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velocity
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body type
I can see that. But I thought we were talking about the ability to be an outstanding pitcher for LSU, not how a scout would view them and project them on the next level or for the draft?
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ability to locate
Ott had outstanding command, it was actually quite staggering given that he was a true freshman. Bradshaw improved as the season went on as he moved farther away from the arm issues he had in January/February.
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mound presence
Ott was superior.
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big game pitching
Ott was superior.
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development throughout season
Bradshaw improved drastically as the season went on.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:42 pm to clownbaby
In college baseball pitching means a whole lot less than the bats on your team. You can throw a plug on the mound but you know your team is going to score 8 runs something that isn't always seen at the major league level.
This post was edited on 2/14/10 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:44 pm to WestCoastTigah
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Yes they are the ones who got him into position to get all those saves
You do realize this is the case WITH EVERY FREAKING CLOSER ON THE PLANET don't you? To be considered a good closer by your standards would they also have to drive in the go ahead run before taking the mound to save the game? You are digging a deeper hole every time you post.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:47 pm to MOT
No what I am saying is that you are giving him too much credit for what his stats show. He was on the championship team they carried him throughout the season. A great closer is Trevor Hoffman or Eric Gagne both of which who pitched on terrible teams but still had the stats. If Ott can reproduce his stats this season then I may consider him to be championship level.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:48 pm to MOT
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You are digging a deeper hole every time you post.
This is true. The post that got whacked was classic fail. But don't you see that you can't argue with the guy? Just give up trying to reason with him and just make fun of him.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:49 pm to WestCoastTigah
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projectability
who gives a damn, we are talking about last season and his career at LSU
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velocity
Dont mean shite if you know how to pitch. With his walk to strikout ratio (look that one up for me and post it in this thread) hes proven he can pitch.
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body type
Again, dont mean shite.
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ability to locate
See BB to K ratio, his location with offspeed is unreal for a college kid especially a freshman.
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mound presence
uhh, ok
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fielding
how many Es did he have?
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big game pitching
A true freshman chasing a national title with expectations through the roof the entire season...what more could you want?
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development throughout season
Hes was money from Day 1. Its hard to develop when you shut down eveyrone from day 1.
How many saves did he blow?
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:51 pm to WestCoastTigah
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A great closer is Trevor Hoffman or Eric Gagne both of which who pitched on terrible teams but still had the stats.
Dude, a closer cant give his team the lead. Tey have to be given an opportunity to get a "save".
Gagne and Hoffman are given the 9th with a lead... who cares how good the offense is, its a moot point, if you have the lead in the 9th its all the same.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:52 pm to LsuTool
Lsutool are you familiar with how to evaluate talent on any level whatsoever?
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:53 pm to LsuTool
The guy is an idiot. there is no point. he is looking at last year and saying that a guy who was dominant and set records at LSU isnt going to match his production this year. Well no shite sherlock, but that doesnt make the job he did last year any less respectible
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:53 pm to WestCoastTigah
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If Ott can reproduce his stats this season then I may consider him to be championship level.
We have the same expectations as last season and another salty lineup this season...
IF he mirrors last season, why would that change your views on him "riding the offense" or "being able to lay it all out because of the offense"
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:54 pm to WestCoastTigah
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WestCoastTigah
do you have eyeballs and a brain? Do you watch LSU baseball?
Whats his stikeout to walk ratio? Post it or shut the hell up.
This post was edited on 2/14/10 at 4:56 pm
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