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re: people, stop with the "backing into the ncg" garbage
Posted on 12/21/09 at 4:46 pm to Lonnie4LSU
Posted on 12/21/09 at 4:46 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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How is that any different than what every other team who has gotten into the BCS title game done?
You have got to be kidding me!
You are right that LSU had to win the SECCG, and they did. What else had to happen for LSU to make it into the BCSNCG?
Seriously did you even read my post?
People it is very simple. LSU only got into that game because other teams lost. If those teams hadn't lost, they would have been in the Sugar Bowl.
And drizz-your sig is fantastic...it is amazing how many people don't understand it
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Posted on 12/21/09 at 4:51 pm to drizztiger
quote:So if you win your last 3 games you didn't back into a championship but if you win your last game to qualify for a championship you did? would 2 games be backing in as well or does it just have to be more than one?
The irony.
BTW, the 2001 LSU Tiger Football team won it's last 3 SEC games and didn't need anyone to lose the last weekend to make the SECCG. fricking revisionists.
Posted on 12/21/09 at 4:53 pm to drizztiger
quote:but we didn't have to wait and hope for any other teams to win in 2003?
We had to wait and hope that specific teams ahead of us would lose so we would be on equal footing again and allow our entire season to compare to theirs.
Posted on 12/21/09 at 4:55 pm to drizztiger
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the 2001 LSU Tiger Football team won it's last 3 SEC games and didn't need anyone to lose the last weekend to make the SECCG. fricking revisionists.
Ok, let's give up our 2007 NC trophy because we had 2 losses. I'm just saying people point out how Miles backed into the NC game but defend Saban to no end. How inconsistent can you be? LSU lost 3 SEC games in 01 and still won the SEC even though Florida and Tennessee both had better SEC records. If Miles backed into the NC in 07, then Saban backed into the 01 SECCG. Losses by Ole Miss and Auburn helped LSU get in. So Saban's SEC title is more deserving just because other teams lost the week before?
Posted on 12/21/09 at 4:59 pm to drexyl
We controlled our own destiny in our last regular season game, and laid an egg against a very beatable Arkansas team at home on Senior Day, in a game marred with formation penalties, delay of game calls, and missed defensive assignments. This is a fact.
This also does not cheapen our NC in any way. We won the games we needed to win, but only those games and no others.
How can you knuckleheads not understand this.
This also does not cheapen our NC in any way. We won the games we needed to win, but only those games and no others.
How can you knuckleheads not understand this.
Posted on 12/21/09 at 5:00 pm to drexyl
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So if you win your last 3 games you didn't back into a championship but if you win your last game to qualify for a championship you did? would 2 games be backing in as well or does it just have to be more than one?
Posted on 12/21/09 at 5:03 pm to drexyl
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but we didn't have to wait and hope for any other teams to win in 2003?
Yes.
The BCS was revamped after that season if you remember.
Posted on 12/21/09 at 5:07 pm to Chimlim
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Ok, let's give up our 2007 NC trophy because we had 2 losses.
Who the frick said that?
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I'm just saying people point out how Miles backed into the NC game but defend Saban to no end.
I haven't mentioned Saban once. The 2003 team needed help too. The difference is they never controlled their own destiny.
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If Miles backed into the NC in 07, then Saban backed into the 01 SECCG.
You're the one that mentioned the fanbase crapping on a team, then you proceed to crap on the 2001 SEC Championship team. That's fricking ridiculous.
Read my posts, I haven't crapped on any LSU team, including the 2007 NC team. I believe they backed in, but were certainly the most deserving team when selection time came.
This post was edited on 12/21/09 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 12/21/09 at 5:12 pm to MC123
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LSU only got into that game because other teams lost.
LSU got into the BCS title game cause during the regular season and post season we did what we had to do to get the invite and the other contenders DIDN'T per the BCS.
That's all that matters to me, but if you want to feel bad for the other contenders or something, knock yourself out.
Posted on 12/21/09 at 5:29 pm to biglego
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It's a travesty only if there was some other deserving team out there with less losses, which in 2007 there was not. So...should Ohio State have just been crowned champ since that was the only 1 loss team out there?
Heck no. The Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, and perhaps one or two others (that year) should have all figured into the crowning every year of a national champion.
In other words, none of this BCS crap. Return to the golden days of college football when two or more bowls figured into the national championship and New Year's Day was the greatest single day in sports.
Posted on 12/21/09 at 5:31 pm to biglego
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It is a shame that LSU dropped 2 games in 2007, although I think 2007 was a very strong year in college football. But it sucks that even with the best team in the country, Miles loses 2 games. 2006 too.
What's a shame is that im on an LSU board, arguing with LSU "fans" who find it necessary to cheapen our '07 NC because they don't like the coach.
This post was edited on 12/21/09 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 12/21/09 at 5:33 pm to drizztiger
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The 2003 team needed help too. The difference is they never controlled their own destiny.
-USC lost on september 27th and we lost on october 11th but we never controlled our own destiny.
-we needed other teams to lose on the last day of the 2003 season but didn't back into the championship game because they've changed the rules since then.
-we won the SECC game to qualify for the BCSCG but that's backing in b/c it has to be at least 3 games to technically "earn" it
-we lost 3 games in 2001 to win the SECC but that one counts and we didn't need any help because we lost those games early; if we had started 5-0 and finished 0-3 that's backing in.
-auburn losing 2 of 3 before playing us doesn't count as help for us to win the SECC in 2001. we obviously controlled our own destiny.
-does the head coach's name have to be miles for it to fit your definition of "backing into" as well?
This post was edited on 12/21/09 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 12/21/09 at 5:38 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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I was referring to the last couple of years
Ofcourse you were. Pick and choose
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If you want to try to win the argument on a technicality that they did in 2005 (over 4 years ago) then you can win that piece of the argument I don't care.
...technicality quote:
But I guess it didn't help that they still LOST the last game of the season, the SECCG
You only mentioned regular season. And if you want to look at that way, they WON the last game of the season by humiliating Miami.
This post was edited on 12/21/09 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 12/21/09 at 5:43 pm to drexyl
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does the head coach's name have to be miles for it to fit your definition of "backing into" as well?
That's your argument not mine.
We certainly didn't back into the SECCG in 2005 or 2007 when Miles was coach. Maybe it has to do with looking at it objectively, something you seem incapable of.
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USC lost on september 27th and we lost on october 11th but we never controlled our own destiny. we also needed other teams to lose on the last day of the season but didn't back into the championship game.
Again, it wouldn't fit my definition of backing-in because LSU won it's last 7 games prior to the BCSCG with only one score being closer than 21 points. LSU was never ranked #1 that season, in fact, LSU wasn't ranked #1 in the AP post season either. In 2007, LSU was ranked #1 twice during the regular season and proceeded to lose twice including a loss that caused them to be in a position where they had to hope specific teams ahead of them also lost.
In 2003, OU clearly backed into the BCSCG though by losing the Big 12 CG.
Posted on 12/21/09 at 5:46 pm to drizztiger
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objectively
quote:so now you have to be ranked #1 to control your own destiny even though the top two teams make the championship game?
LSU was never ranked #1 that season,
This post was edited on 12/21/09 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 12/21/09 at 5:47 pm to drexyl
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drexyl
Posted on 12/21/09 at 5:49 pm to drizztiger
emoticons cut deep drizz; deeper than you'll ever know.
Posted on 12/21/09 at 5:54 pm to drexyl
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emoticons cut deep drizz; deeper than you'll ever know.
I enjoy how you go back and edit your posts after the fact.
Pretty neat Mr. Emoticon.
Posted on 12/21/09 at 5:56 pm to drizztiger
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I enjoy how you go back and edit your posts after the fact.
feature's been around for a while actually.
Posted on 12/21/09 at 5:57 pm to drizztiger
Anyhow, I've explained my thought process multiple times. If you need to make it anti-Miles, so be it. I don't think Miles backed into either of the SECCGs. I think LSU was clearly the most deserving team for the 07 BSCCG appearance at decision time.
But, you spin it how you like.
But, you spin it how you like.
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