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re: Patrick Peterson on the first long TD pass
Posted on 11/29/10 at 9:05 pm to LSUPHILLY72
Posted on 11/29/10 at 9:05 pm to LSUPHILLY72
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The second one before half was Eric Reid. For what it is worth.
Uh, no it wasn't. It was Hatcher before half. Again.
The coverage was not the issue. It was Hatchers pathetic attempt at tackling both times.
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Posted on 11/29/10 at 9:18 pm to LSUtiger17
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Another thing I'm unsure about is why PP didn't try to get a jam on the 1. Seems like that could've really helped, and he didn't even try.
I didn't finish reading the thread, but in the postgame Miles and Peterson both confirmed this is what he was supposed to do.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 9:40 pm to MOT
yea, he is the most overrated LSU player ever. Hes only gonna be an All-American and top 10 draft pick. What a joke....
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:22 am to bmy
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The coverage was not the issue.
Eric Reid was 15 yards out of position...the receiver caught the ball where Reid should have been (at the 50 yard line) and Eric Reid was at the 35 yard line jumping the tight end's 12 yard in route.
The coach's defensive call was good. Everybody else was in the right position...so how was this not Eric Reid's fault. He was the only player out of position.
Hatcher started the play on the right hash and Reid on the left...and the ball was completed on the left hash.
The player at the 35 to the left of the hash is Eric Reid. My guess...on the last play of the half, he was not supposed to be jumping the short route.
This post was edited on 11/30/10 at 2:43 am
Posted on 11/30/10 at 2:43 am to LSUPHILLY72
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Patrick Peterson is the most overrated player I've ever seen at LSU. He is very good, but he was billed as teh best in the nation. He simply did not make enough big plays as a defensive player to warrant such credit. He didn't do anything in our biggest games against the best opponents.
Tiger Ryno... Name someone better. Please, inform us all. I can't wait to hear how you try to defend such ignorance. I'm excited!
Posted on 11/30/10 at 11:42 am to LSUPHILLY72
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The player at the 35 to the left of the hash is Eric Reid. My guess...on the last play of the half, he was not supposed to be jumping the short route.
The coverage was not optimal, you're right. BUT, it was adequate, if Hatcher doesn't whiff in a spectacular fashion. All he had to do was tackle, and no TD is given up. No time left on the clock.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 11:45 am to CAT
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Even if he did jump too soon Hatcher had a perfect opportunity to hit the WR for a minimal game but whiffed.
The coverage was fine, the tackling and execution was the problem. The play should have been stopped well short of the goal line.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I've enjoyed this thread because it discusses football scheming and execution. Lots more interesting than "Arky sux" or "That Hog Call is stupid."
I have an observation, and I readily admit it is coming from someone who is not studied on the intricacies of the various coverage schemes. My initial impression on watching the game live and then after seeing it a couple more times on replay was that the guy coming over to cover Hamilton on the long TD down the sideline - at least at some point - thought he had a chance to break on the ball for either the interception or the pass break up. Generally speaking, most college qbs can't get a ball into that window that quickly. I glady admit I could be WAY off on this one, but it appeared to me that the reason he was in such a bad position to make the tackle was because he closed on Hamilton with the intent of a breakup/int. Only, the ball got there considerably faster than he had anticipated, leaving him in a vulnerable position and ending in an Arkansas TD.
I have an observation, and I readily admit it is coming from someone who is not studied on the intricacies of the various coverage schemes. My initial impression on watching the game live and then after seeing it a couple more times on replay was that the guy coming over to cover Hamilton on the long TD down the sideline - at least at some point - thought he had a chance to break on the ball for either the interception or the pass break up. Generally speaking, most college qbs can't get a ball into that window that quickly. I glady admit I could be WAY off on this one, but it appeared to me that the reason he was in such a bad position to make the tackle was because he closed on Hamilton with the intent of a breakup/int. Only, the ball got there considerably faster than he had anticipated, leaving him in a vulnerable position and ending in an Arkansas TD.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:08 pm to BenHOGan
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Generally speaking, most college qbs can't get a ball into that window that quickly. I glady admit I could be WAY off on this one, but it appeared to me that the reason he was in such a bad position to make the tackle was because he closed on Hamilton with the intent of a breakup/int. Only, the ball got there considerably faster than he had anticipated, leaving him in a vulnerable position and ending in an Arkansas TD.
I agree 100%.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:17 pm to CAT
It looked to me like PP had the short outside zone and the safety had over the top. He just didn't get over in time. You gotta give credit to ARK for a great route and throw.
This post was edited on 11/30/10 at 4:21 pm
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