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re: Pat Forde's Les Miles reference

Posted on 12/7/09 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/7/09 at 3:43 pm to
How was that worse? Seriously. Brown didn't make McCoy hold the ball 4 seconds too long before throwing it away. Miles HAD 3 DOWNS AND 2 TIMEOUTS to gain 0 yards and kick a field goal and he fricked that up. I'm sorry Mack Brown is stupid and that was one of the worst plays i've ever seen but Miles lack of mental ability in the Ole Miss game was way way worse.
Posted by Crazy4DaTigers
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
97 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 3:48 pm to
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I always thought Brown was the Crème de la Crème of idiot coaches until Miles. But honestly they are probably on about an even keel.


I've always thought the same thing. I grew up a Texas fan and I now am a Tiger fan mostly but still love the Longhorns also. I don't think either coach is a great coach. They are good recruiters and I think that the players and luck have been on their side a whole lot.

On the clock management thing, I think that this should be compared to Miles and Flynn's time management issues in 2007 against Auburn not the Ole Miss game. If that ball would have been tipped into the air and not completed, game over and no National Championship for LSU.
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 3:49 pm to
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re: Pat Forde's Les Miles reference


how many national championships has pat forde won?

answer...zero.

how many crucial games has pat forde coached?

answer...zero.

what the frick does pat forde's opinion mean to any independent thinking human being?

answer...zero.

how many functioning brain cells do you have left?

answer...let's see, you had a thought supplied to you by a media hack...you typed a post...you hit submit correctly...you dropped your bong (-10 pts there dude)...I'd have to say somewhere between 50-100. good luck with that.
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
6194 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 3:54 pm to
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byubengalboy


Typical ranter

anger management classes are available if you still have a problem with the Ole Miss loss
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
5837 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 3:58 pm to
How many coaches has Pat Forde made to look like a damn idiot?

1 - Les Miles

Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15277 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 3:59 pm to
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This is just not accurate. The clock started when the ball was set for play. Hell, we were so confused we didn't even get the snap off. If you watch the replay, we took so long to get the ball snapped the clock expires before JJ spikes it. SAD, SAD, SAD


Cause you can't do it with one second...but with 2 or 3 you can...and I still think we'd have done it.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15277 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 4:03 pm to
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Yes, but there was really nothing to review in our game. The confusion in our game was limited only to our coaches and players.

In the Texas game, it was clear that the clock ran longer than necessary. This was rightly corrected under review.

I don't get where you are going with this. What part of our game needed to be reviewed?


Too much time ran off after Tolliver's catch. Should have been 2 to 3 seconds left. A respectable crew would have reviewed it and set it properly. Just like the Big 12 crew. Heck Nebraska was celebrating and leaving the field. The Ref's stopped the whole thing....reviewed it by super-imposing the clock over the play...determined that when the ball hit an object out of bounds there was one second left...reset the clock...cleared the field and allowed the Longhorns to easily win the game. Our crew beat a path for the ref's locker room, took their paychecks and called it a day.
Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2699 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 4:57 pm to
Les Miles never lost a game with a national championship on the line
Posted by LJBurton
Member since Feb 2005
1383 posts
Posted on 12/7/09 at 5:26 pm to
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Too much time ran off after Tolliver's catch. Should have been 2 to 3 seconds left. A respectable crew would have reviewed it and set it properly. Just like the Big 12 crew. Heck Nebraska was celebrating and leaving the field. The Ref's stopped the whole thing....reviewed it by super-imposing the clock over the play...determined that when the ball hit an object out of bounds there was one second left...reset the clock...cleared the field and allowed the Longhorns to easily win the game. Our crew beat a path for the ref's locker room, took their paychecks and called it a day.


OK, I see what you are saying. I must admit I haven't heard too many people complaining about the clock operation in this game. I was at the game, so I didn't have the benefit of replay. I'll have to take your word that the refs were late calling for the clock to stop.

Either way you stack it, the sad thing is that Les had no contingency plan if the ball fell short of the end zone. For what he is paid, one would think this was not asking for too much.

AND, we should never have been in that position, because he inexplicably let 17 seconds run off before finally deciding to call timeout.

AND, this is not an isolated incident, rather only the first time it cost him a loss. Recall the Georgia game when, for no reason, he let the clock run down to end the half. Recall the Auburn game in '07, which I think most closely compares to the Texas game Saturday night. I know there are more, but these are at the top of mind right now.

The thing about the Auburn game is that everyone was so excited that we won, Les got a pass on what was very clearly some really stupid clock mismanagement. I can't believe it took this long for his colossal clock f'ups to catch up to him.

There is no way that I guy in his position, shouldn't be able to do better than this. Every one at that Ole Miss game, and I mean everyone, knew he had screwed up big time. Everyone from the hardcore football guys, to the girls who were there to make the scene, EVERYONE. When the casual fans know better than the Head Coach, what does that tell you? There is just no good excuse for being this dumb.
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