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re: Pardon my ignorance but can somebody educate me

Posted on 2/9/11 at 8:54 pm to
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 8:54 pm to
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It would trip you out how the o-line man will lead you to the ball about 95% of the time


That is one of the single most important aspect of a D-Line's job. Reading the O-Line will tell you the play is. How they block, how they line up, what their stance looks like, where their heads are turned. All keys.
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 8:55 pm to
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I'm at LSU working as an equipment manager trainee getting some experience before I get to a high school when I graduate.


congrats man. I wish you the best of luck in your career. maybe one day we might line up against each other or hell, even be on the same staff.

Whats your email addy?
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 8:55 pm to
Whiteness of their knuckles...
Posted by McLovinII
Member since Feb 2010
1811 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 8:56 pm to
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That is one of the single most important aspect of a D-Line's job. Reading the O-Line will tell you the play is. How they block, how they line up, what their stance looks like, where their heads are turned. All keys.


Didn't you love when you would be playing end and the tackle would go to will or sam and you'd squeeze him into the guard/blow up the trap/make the rb bite his mouthpiece in half
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 8:56 pm to
Good luck to you too. Hope that shoulder heals up soon.

deafjam73@gmail.com
Posted by McLovinII
Member since Feb 2010
1811 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 8:57 pm to
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Whiteness of their knuckles...


true, the splits were my favorite key, if you learned one thing, it was that the splits NEVER lied
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 8:57 pm to
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Didn't you love when you would be playing end and the tackle would go to will or sam and you'd squeeze him into the guard/blow up the trap/make the rb bite his mouthpiece in half


That shite worked like clock work. It was like watching dominoes fall.
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 8:58 pm to
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Wrong. A few years ago, the fad was the play a 22 look ( two 2 techs and 2 5s) vs. the spread look, with no tight, it made sense in terms of stopping traps, and such, ive also seen that same look run against the wing t ( aka flex bone for you NCAA 11 fans)


I was speaking in terms of DT's. I've only rarely seen a d tackle lined up that far out. what your talking about is with two DT's and two DE's
Posted by McLovinII
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 8:59 pm to
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That shite worked like clock work. It was like watching dominoes fall.


unless the tailback was Michael Ford. a couple of times id get him, but he was the king of bouncing it outside and taking it to the house. He hit us for 260
Posted by McLovinII
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 9:01 pm to
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I was speaking in terms of DT's. I've only rarely seen a d tackle lined up that far out. what your talking about is with two DT's and two DE's


Yea, that would be kinda crazy, the wildest ive seen was a 33 look and there was some serious wrap stunts going on out of that (thanks butch stoker). But that is just a QB sneak waiting to happen
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 9:02 pm to
I smashed the fricking shite out of Kenny Hilliard on one play. One of the best plays I ever made. Then he went to gain 200+ yards and 3 touchdowns.

Posted by McLovinII
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 9:05 pm to
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I smashed the fricking shite out of Kenny Hilliard on one play. One of the best plays I ever made. Then he went to gain 200+ yards and 3 touchdowns.


Thats how it works with those undersized lineman. I was 160, there was a kid out of Chalmette who signed with LSU, but had grade probs named Anthony Boudreaux. He was like 6'7 and 350, and had in solid white contacts, talk about freaked me the hell out
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 9:08 pm to
a 33 look out of a 4 lineman set(against a 2 te offensive set or 1 Te, 1 FB, 1 Rb),strong side tackle slant in(lets say strong right, so he slants into the 3 gap), end crashes down into 5. weakside dt slants out into 4, weakside de slants into 6. weakside Lb fills backside A while the strong lineback runs wide for contain and the middle reads and fills the hole for the cut back
Posted by StatMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 9:35 pm to
Thanks for all of the info guys. So here's part 2 to the original question - Is there a difference in the type of player/size/speed etc that you want to play each technique? Obviously if you are playing nose guard, you want a pretty stout guy but one that doesn't have to be as mobile. What about the other positions/techniques?
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 9:40 pm to
Noseguards and inside guys will want to be a little heavier but not fat. I guess 6'1" and about 290 would be ideal.

As for ends, those guys need to be slimmer and quicker. I guess 6'2" 275 would be an general size.
Posted by jm3
Member since Jul 2010
1459 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 9:45 pm to
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7thWardTiger

What year did you play at Millsaps?
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 9:48 pm to
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Is there a difference in the type of player/size/speed etc that you want to play each technique?


Yes. If your running a 3 man front, you want to have 3 guys who are powerful, with low center of gravities and guys who command double teams in order to keep them off your LBs. so you would need a Glenn Dorsey in the middle, with 2 Drake Nevis as the 3 techs.

If you run 4 lineman, then you need to tackles who are strong enough to hold their own in the middle. quick with a good center of gravity and powerful legs for leverage. Defensive ends are smaller and quicker(and by smaller i mean in the 250-275 range for college). They need to be quick with good feet in order to rush the passer and beat the offensive tackles. In rare cases, you get a Julius Pepper who is quick as lightning and can overpower a tackle. Playing d-line is mostly technique. Come out low, stay low. you can be Suh but if you have bad technique, and stand straight up, you will get blown off the ball everytime.
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 9:49 pm to
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What year did you play at Millsaps?


2008. the undefeated year that we loss to Lagrange in the second round of the playoffs
Posted by jm3
Member since Jul 2010
1459 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 9:55 pm to
Where are you from originally?
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 9:58 pm to
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Where are you from originally


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7thWardTiger


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