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Our main problem. (Difference in Saban and Miles)
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:30 pm
If not a big fan of Crowton's play calling. But if you cant run the rock you cant go all the way. Our O-line was like wet toilet paper.
New OC---will not help next year without a talented OL
New HC---will not help next year without a talented OL
The main difference between Miles and Saban is thier ability to scout and develope lineman.
Dont give me that scheme crap either. I watched Hitt and T-boby go backwards try ing to run block all year.
This is the main problem with most programs. Finding and developing great lineman.
New OC---will not help next year without a talented OL
New HC---will not help next year without a talented OL
The main difference between Miles and Saban is thier ability to scout and develope lineman.
Dont give me that scheme crap either. I watched Hitt and T-boby go backwards try ing to run block all year.
This is the main problem with most programs. Finding and developing great lineman.
This post was edited on 1/8/10 at 12:33 pm
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Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:32 pm to LSUcjb318
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Our O-line was like wet toilet paper.
Yeah, with dookie still on it.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:32 pm to LSUcjb318
That and we run a gimmick offense. Alabama runs what we used to run with Jimbo.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:33 pm to LSUcjb318
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(Difference in Saban and Miles)
can we stop with this shite please?
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:34 pm to LSUcjb318
Difference is Saban knows who his best are and puts them out their. Miles sticks with upperclassman no matter what.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:36 pm to Weaver
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can we stop with this shite please?
No Name a geat lineman that Miles recruited.
Now Name Sabans crew
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:37 pm to LSUcjb318
The game is won the trenches.
I wish people would think before ranting about Crowton. What about Coach Stud? Our OL was horrendous.
I wish people would think before ranting about Crowton. What about Coach Stud? Our OL was horrendous.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:37 pm to bdsco337
quote:EXACTLY
That and we run a gimmick offense. Alabama runs what we used to run with Jimbo.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:37 pm to Mudminnow
Les Crowton and Stud all need to go.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:39 pm to Choctaw
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can we stop with this shite please?
With the guys on this board, it really is as close to an obsession as I've ever seen. If Saban ever gets kidnapped, the feds are gonna subpoena TD's IP addresses and we're all going to be having a sitdown.
Jesus is never going to forgive Saban for what he did to the LSU fanbase.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:42 pm to Navytiger74
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With the guys on this board, it really is as close to an obsession as I've ever seen. If Saban ever gets kidnapped, the feds are gonna subpoena TD's IP addresses and we're all going to be having a sitdown.
Jesus is never going to forgive Saban for what he did to the LSU fanbase.
Im not mad at Saban. Im just pointing out what he did at bama and here.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:47 pm to LSUcjb318
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Im not mad at Saban. Im just pointing out what he did at bama and here.
Choctaw sees anything in favor of Saban being an automatic indictment of Miles. Even objective evidence right before his eyes.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:49 pm to LSUcjb318
If you watched the line blocking technics used by Bama it was aimed at creating lanes, It was unconventional at times, do what it takes to create the lane. I do not see the same type of technic used by our line. It boils down to one thing coaching 
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:56 pm to Weaver
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Difference is Saban knows who his best are and puts them out their. Miles sticks with upperclassman no matter what.
Weaver, please compare the classes of Saban's starting OL against Miles' OL.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 2:33 pm to LSUcjb318
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Dont give me that scheme crap either. I watched Hitt and T-boby go backwards try ing to run block all year
So did everyone in Tiger stadium. You never saw Blackwell,Hurst or Lonergan go backwards while they were in the game.LSU has to quit playing favorites and teach technique and fundamentals. No one can say that this OL was sound in technique or fundamentals. Former players say that Stud the "DUD" doesn't stress technique or fundamentals. They need to tell him to haul arse but the problem is it would take the fat arse 3 years to haul his big arse off.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 2:37 pm to LSUcjb318
I am not convinced this is a talent issue. I think this is a coaching issue. LSU's lines, O and D have been bad all year. The most obvious explanation, they aren't practicing hard enough. That is, they aren't pushing each other hard in every practice.
Crowton's and Fish both ran screwy offenses. Would be nice to see LSU get a real O - coordinator.
Crowton's and Fish both ran screwy offenses. Would be nice to see LSU get a real O - coordinator.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 2:39 pm to aglandry
Ok, I 'm just going to take a stab at this festering issue:
(It's an guess I really cannot substantiate, but here goes:)
1. Les Miles is not nearly as good a football coach as Nick Saban;
2. Whatever else follows, see number 1, above.
(It's an guess I really cannot substantiate, but here goes:)
1. Les Miles is not nearly as good a football coach as Nick Saban;
2. Whatever else follows, see number 1, above.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 2:42 pm to nitwit
We have a winner.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 2:44 pm to nitwit
I generally agree with the sentiment that there is too much psychological drama on this board regarding Nick Saban.
HOWEVER...
Given the events of last night, there is now an additional reason to indulge in comparison of the two coaches. The new national and conference champion is in our division, and is the standard we must measure ourselves against for the time being.
HOWEVER...
Given the events of last night, there is now an additional reason to indulge in comparison of the two coaches. The new national and conference champion is in our division, and is the standard we must measure ourselves against for the time being.
Posted on 1/8/10 at 2:47 pm to Leaux
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If you watched the line blocking technics used by Bama it was aimed at creating lanes, It was unconventional at times, do what it takes to create the lane. I do not see the same type of technic used by our line. It boils down to one thing coaching
Watching last nights game, along with some other bowl games, what stood out is that the very good teams are very sound in the basic fundamentals of football. No meerkatting every play, not constant change at the line. Fundamentals. They are sorely lacking with LSU now and this is something that is not being coached. Schemes are a bigger concern and trying to make the schemes work, even if the players are not developing, is the focus now. Return to the fundamentals and LSU will be in contention for the SEC and NC. Don't, and it's mediocrity every year.
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