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re: O’s Legacy…Hero or Villain?
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:07 pm to Goldrush25
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:07 pm to Goldrush25
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Myles Brennan
Justin McMillan
Lowell Narcisse
What are these guys doing now?
Since O is such a great evaluator of QB talent can I get one of his recruits to get drafted? Just one.
I'll take your answer off the air, thanks.
Oh so now you're saying the standard isn't just recruiting good prospects, it's being able to see into the future and tell which one will become an NFL QB?
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Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:10 pm to Solo Cam
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Hahaa
What about Bama, Clemson, Oklahoma, Georgia, Florida and Texas.
Joe Burrow did all of that.
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You talking about the transcendent QB that he brought to LSU, that one?
His DC (the one that he eventually forced out) hired the assistant that had the relationship with the Burrow family.
What do you think O approving the acquisition of Burrow says about him? You said he gets "full credit" but I still don't know what that means. Does someone buying a winning Powerball ticket get "full credit" for amassing wealth in your eyes? You would ask that person how you can amass your own wealth?
Given his entire coaching career (particularly signing QBs), seeing that none of them have done anything of note, it just seems like dumb luck to me but you think differently? What's so offensive about being lucky?
This post was edited on 10/14/21 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:12 pm to seabrisket
If you change anything about 2019, LSU does not win the National Championship.
The butterfly effect comes into play.
O and even the people who wash the uniforms, the trainers, assistant coaches, and players have to align perfectly.
You don't change anything. No regrets. It is worth thanking him and buying him out to leave.
O has become a diminishing return and it's on the LSU administration to rectify things.
He is not a villain. The administration can save his legacy and be appreciative without retaining him.
He should have been let go at the end of last season.
This year is on the administration. The signs were there to separate.
The butterfly effect comes into play.
O and even the people who wash the uniforms, the trainers, assistant coaches, and players have to align perfectly.
You don't change anything. No regrets. It is worth thanking him and buying him out to leave.
O has become a diminishing return and it's on the LSU administration to rectify things.
He is not a villain. The administration can save his legacy and be appreciative without retaining him.
He should have been let go at the end of last season.
This year is on the administration. The signs were there to separate.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:13 pm to Tiger Voodoo
quote:So het gets credit for listening to his guys and being brave enough to make the move, thanks.
After Ensminger found him and told O to make his mark on the paperwork.
quote:Lol those people also breathe through the mouth and need helmets around sharp objects.
A guy that didn’t want the job and most people feel to this day wasn’t qualified for it and didn’t do a very good job at it until he found a guy that could help his offense take the next step.
quote:I know exactly how it came
Do people like you honestly not know how the Burrow situation came about or do you just lie hoping the people you’re talking to don’t know
About, you don’t which is why you posted some vague bullshite without any actual info.
Burrow decided to transfer from Ohio State and Texas, A&M and Nebraska all passed.
Joe wanted to go to Nebraska, it came down to Cincinnati and LSU.
And Ed Orgeron recruited and signed the greatest player in LSU history, Choke on it son
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Bolded all the players committed/signed/played before O became even interim HC. And even if you want to credit him for all those guys, without Burrow none of them take O to a championship in 2019.
That’s complete bullshite, every single one of them signed to play for Ed Orgeron. You’re completely wrong, it’s not even an argument or an opinion, it’s a fact.
The only one is Rashard Lawrence who signed with O was his positional coach and had a quote that he was going to Ohio State before O was hired at Dline coach.
You’re right you stupid frick, none of those guys without burrow go to the title. Burrow without those guys doesn’t go to the title. All of them wirhout Brady doesn’t win the title.
Who brought them all together? Goddam you’re proving my point for me
quote:hahaha then you give the credit to the guy who brought in burrow and retained Aranda. Are you trolling and trying to prove my point???
“Only” reason? That’s not how it works, obviously. But take Burrow or Aranda away and you’re fortunate to have a NY6 Bowl team, and nowhere near a championship team or undefeated historic season.
Lol this fricking clown
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:16 pm to Goldrush25
quote:Recurited and signed by Ed Orgeron.
Joe Burrow did all of that.
quote:Lol you think he forced out Aranda? Lololol
His DC (the one that he eventually forced out) hired the assistant that had the relationship with the Burrow family.
Aranda wanted Bill Busch and O gave him the green light. Great managerial move.
quote:I love that you have to keep trying to use anecdotal comparisons because you can’t actually argue with numbers or facts,
Does someone buying a winning Powerball ticket get "full credit" for amassing wealth in your eyes?
I’m done responding to you and your emotions.
Come back with numbers or go make a comparison about tounge kissing some balls
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:16 pm to seabrisket
Our society does not have heroes any more, unless it is some sycophantic progressive hero.
We tear everyone down.
But, over the long run, Coach O will be viewed as a hero IF society quits trying to constantly find a way to tear down heroes.
We tear everyone down.
But, over the long run, Coach O will be viewed as a hero IF society quits trying to constantly find a way to tear down heroes.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:22 pm to chinhoyang
quote:frick off troll.
chinhoyang
Viva La General Wade!
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:26 pm to Havoc
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Oh so now you're saying the standard isn't just recruiting good prospects, it's being able to see into the future and tell which one will become an NFL QB?
How about having QBs that can consistently play well at this level. Is that too much to ask? He can't even do that.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:28 pm to Solo Cam
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Come back with numbers or go make a comparison about tounge kissing some balls
Projection.
You still haven't explained what "full credit" entails, only that O deserves it.
We can remove the outliers in O's career and conclude that he's not a good coach. You take the outlier and use that as evidence of anything but being an outlier.
O is as good as gone man. You're one of the few still crying about it for some reason.
This post was edited on 10/14/21 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:29 pm to Solo Cam
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Hahaha yeah. Miles for sure would have opened it up and created the most lethal offense college football has ever seen. It’s
Completely his fault that Miles lost to Auburn and Wisconsin. It was because our Dline gave up on us lolol
Wisconsin and Auburn had good defenses. My point a-hole was he DIDNT BEAT A SINGLE TEAM WITH A RUSH DEFENSE RANKED LESS THAN 100. I don’t know if you understand what that means. MILES TEAM. That 2016 Team, was built to beat exactly the teams he beat. Except he lost to UF.
Here is the arse hole. LINK
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Yes!! It was also O’s fault that Alleva agreed to that dumbass agreement. frick yeah, let’s keep going
You can’t rewrite history when we ALL remember how that played out. Rah rah rah Hurricane we want to play. But we know that yeah, Alleva was a moron. Look he hired Orgeron. How fricking stupid was that?
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Wait what? Your max he didn’t have enough rushing yards as an interm?
Jesus moron. I said that Bama was the only team with a rush defense ie pulse and he didn’t beat ANY P5 team ranked in the 100’s.
So where was his offense that was better than Miles? Stupid frick.
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It’s time for O to go, But I hope you melting over this, pussy
Are fricking retarded? I said not only he should be gone, but should have NEVER BEEN HIRED BECAUSE HE WASNT QUALIFIED AND DID NOTHING THAT THE PREVIOUS COACH WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED IN 2015 except LOSE TO UF
Him and Orgeron
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:31 pm to Goldrush25
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His DC (the one that he eventually forced out) hired the assistant that had the relationship with the Burrow family.
What do you think O approving the acquisition of Burrow says about him? You said he gets "full credit" but I still don't know what that means.
Why don't you take Joe Burrow's word for it?
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Coach O, you have no idea what you mean to my family. I didn’t play for three years, you took a chance on me not knowing if I could play or not. And I am forever grateful for you. Can you imagine a guy like Coach O giving me the keys to his football program? He just means so much to me and my family and to LSU. I sure hope they give him a lifetime contract, he deserves it.
But I don't think anyone is saying JB coming here was 100% solo effort by O. It wasn't. But he was certainly a key and vital component to that happening.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:32 pm to Solo Cam
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So het gets credit for listening to his guys and being brave enough to make the move, thanks.
Yes, for once in his career, he listened to someone else. Not sure this is the feather in his cap that you think it is though. Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:33 pm to Havoc
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But I don't think anyone is saying JB coming here was 100% solo effort by O. It wasn't. But he was certainly a key and vital component to that happening.
What makes you believe this?
Did you ever ask yourself why Cincinnati was even a consideration vs LSU? Not even in the same class of program. It took the relationship via Busch to tip the scales in our favor. Without Busch you think we have a shot at Burrow still?
This post was edited on 10/14/21 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:34 pm to Havoc
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Why don't you take Joe Burrow's word for it?
So we should give O a lifetime contract? I love Burrow, man, and I am thankful for what he did here, but I love LSU more, and I'd rather not burn the place down as a sacrifice for 2019. You're free to do you though.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:36 pm to Mo Jeaux
The last gasp of the Ed pumpers. Sad, really.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:46 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Yes, for once in his career, he listened to someone else. Not sure this is the feather in his cap that you think it is though.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:48 pm to Mo Jeaux
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So we should give O a lifetime contract?
Did I say that? NO. Shitpost.
We're discussing people trying to rewrite history, no one's even saying O should stay.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:49 pm to seabrisket
He won a national championship. He will go down as a NC winning head coach in a time where not many others did it due to the conference and college football being dominated by Alabama.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:53 pm to Solo Cam
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So het gets credit for listening to his guys and being brave enough to make the move, thanks.
So brave
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Lol those people also breathe through the mouth and need helmets around sharp objects.
No bigger supporter of E than I am.
But is it your opinion that O hired an OC capable of leading an offense to what we witnessed in 2019 on his own?
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Burrow decided to transfer from Ohio State and Texas, A&M and Nebraska all passed.
UT and A&M didn’t “pass”.
LSU was the only championship level school that had a scholarship to give in June that had a QB room like a wasteland. It was an easy choice for Burrow once Frost decided not to rock the boat with the prize recruit of his first recruiting class in Lincoln (stupid, and will cost him his job, but he was in a new job and didn’t want to piss off the best recruit Nebraska had pulled in years at the time).
You posted that O took him after everyone else passed as though he was the only one that saw the potential of this Diamond in the rough
The Burrows knew LSU was the Diamond in the rough, not the other way around. They contacted Busch who talked to Aranda.
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Joe wanted to go to Nebraska, it came down to Cincinnati and LSU.
Some people still pretend that Joe fricking Burrow was considering going to play in the American Athletic Conference because he was going to be homesick
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And Ed Orgeron recruited and signed the greatest player in LSU history, Choke on it son
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That’s complete bullshite, every single one of them signed to play for Ed Orgeron. You’re completely wrong, it’s not even an argument or an opinion, it’s a fact.
Then you go on to say oh well yeah except for Rashard Lawrence
And please provide a link to quote where he says he only came here because of Ed 
And for the record, Glen Logan was in the 2016 class as well, fact
Even so, if you don’t see the difference in a coach identifying pursuing and getting an initial commitment from a player from the beginning and just convincing already committed kids to stay on board after a coaching change, there isn’t much else to say to you.
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You’re right you stupid frick, none of those guys without burrow go to the title. Burrow without those guys doesn’t go to the title. All of them wirhout Brady doesn’t win the title.
So this is where you go from dealing in facts to opinions, got it
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Lol this fricking clown
Listen, I can tell this is a tough time for you. But at least you’re past denial and into anger. It’s oozing from your posts.
But hey, you’re almost halfway to acceptance!
This post was edited on 10/14/21 at 4:00 pm
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