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re: Orgeron: It's going to look different, because it is different

Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:39 pm to
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No

So, in your opinion, the handful of projections of 6-6 had nothing at all, subconsciously or otherwise, to do with O's previous track record as a head coach?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:39 pm to
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A tigerdroppings fan poll???




Just as relevant as any talking head. Of course you won'tr accept that you were monumentally wrong.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:40 pm to
I posted two professional predictions, one 8-4 (correctly predicting a 5-3 SEC record) and the other AT LEAST 8 wins. Care to discount those?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:40 pm to
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I posted two professional predictions, one 8-4 (correctly predicting a 5-3 SEC record) and the other AT LEAST 8 wins. Care to discount those?




He's only concerned with ones that fit his narrative
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:41 pm to
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Just as relevant as any talking head. Of course you won'tr accept that you were monumentally wrong.

It's actually more relevant, since most of the O pumpers love to tout the line that O beat what fans (i.e. "haters") thought he could do.
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:41 pm to
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o, in your opinion, the handful of projections of 6-6 had nothing at all, subconsciously or otherwise, to do with O's previous track record as a head coach?


It's not my opinion, it's what was written. Actually the article says 6-6 does an injustice to Orgeron. It doesn't say he's the problem, it says he's the reason 6-6 is too low.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:42 pm to
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[quote]But then they lost to Alabama, which is one thing. Everyone loses to Alabama. Losing to Arkansas in the follow-up — allowing 299 rushing yards in a 31-14 defeat — is another, and that’s apparently why Miles is now on extremely shaky ground entering the final two games of the season.

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the fan base has seemingly grown tired of Miles’s conservative, run-heavy play-calling (a tactic that’s been abandoned by Alabama and even Arkansas, to a certain extent).

“Pair that with habitual problems with penalties, delay of game issues, and this year’s special teams breakdowns, and it’s a recipe for dissatisfaction, on the verge of changing over to apathy,” 

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Off the field, one would be hard pressed to find major boosters, big financial supporters of the program, who are in Miles’ corner. His cultivation of those relationships has been wanting, 


The ole lie that Miles was fired for losing 3 games can be put to rest. His issues started before 2015 started.

Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:43 pm to
Where are they posted? If it's professional, I wouldn't discount it - but a fan poll? LNCHBOX never ceases to amaze me.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:43 pm to
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The ole lie that Miles was fired for losing 3 games can be put to rest. His issues started before 2015 started.


So if we beat Wisconsin and Auburn and start the season 4-0, you think he'd still have been fired following the Auburn game?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:44 pm to
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It's actually more relevant, since most of the O pumpers love to tout the line that O beat what fans (i.e. "haters") thought he could do.
He also beat what every professional poll said he would do in 2018. The highest preseason ranking I could find was 25th (AP), in the rest, LSU was unranked in 2018.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:45 pm to
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The ole lie that Miles was fired for losing 3 games can be put to rest


He was fired for not winning the West, which is hard to do when you're losing 3 games. No one would bat an eye if we were having 2011 type seasons regularly with that offense, but it was the exception.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 1:49 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:45 pm to
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Where are they posted? If it's professional, I wouldn't discount it - but a fan poll? LNCHBOX never ceases to amaze me.



Just take your L like a man. I told you it was here and nationally, and I was spot on.

You just want the bar to be as low as possible so there is no possible way 0 can never fail to reach it.
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:49 pm to
You do realize that one of your posts predicted 7-5 and said they could get to 8-4, right? Setting the win total at 7 but could get to 8 ..as long as...as long as...as long as...

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Guessing The Preseason Regular Season Win Total Will Be Set At … 7

The Tigers will lose at least two of the four key road games against Auburn, Florida, Arkansas and Texas A&M, and but they will win at least once in the massive games against Miami, Georgia, and Alabama – most likely, against the Hurricanes.

The key is avoiding the Troy loss of last year against Louisiana Tech, and there can’t be a blowout loss like there was against Mississippi State – there can’t be any mistakes.

As long as the Tigers take down the home games they’re supposed to against the Bulldogs, Ole Miss and Rice, and as long as they do what they do and pull off a few big wins in tight games – like last year’s victory over Auburn – they’ll get to eight wins.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:52 pm to
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You do realize that one of your posts predicted 7-5 and said they could get to 8-4, right?


ANd there are several that have 9
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9-3 At the risk of oversimplifying things, LSU’s success, or lack thereof, in 2018 will come down to two factors: 1. Focus and effort week over week 2. Continuity on offense If the 2018 Tigers come out looking flat and unprepared like they did against Mississippi State and Troy last year, this team could very easily look up five games into the season and find themselves worse off than 3-2. If the team that LSU put on the field during the middle stretch of 2017 shows up and the offense hits its stride under Ensminger and Joe Burrow, LSU will be in every game on their schedule.


Take your goddamn L like a man.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 1:52 pm
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:52 pm to
Where's you get that from?
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:53 pm to
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Not to mention you were all up in the 0 is an upgrade over Les thread.



In terms of making viable change and trying to lead the program back to prominence....he is IMO....but only in this regard.
His record so far is no better than Miles.....but I def like the direction of the program better at this point compared to what Miles was doing at the end.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:53 pm to
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Where's you get that from?


Somewhere that I'm sure you'll try to discredit, so what's the point?
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:53 pm to
Fansided.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:54 pm to
Called it.

All you're doing by only using the people with the low expectations is showing that those people are clueless. Why should they be trusted when the majority of people that voted here got it right on the money?

you are just embarrassing yourself at this point.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 1:55 pm to
“ I guess you missed 10 and 3”

If you want to see 10-3, 5-3 in a 13 game season with a worse O as some kind of significant difference between 9-3, 5-3 in a 12 game season, knock yourself out.

The advent of the playoff poll has reduced the importance of other polls. I’m not saying a top 10 ranking doesn’t speak well, it just doesn’t speak as loudly as it once did.

“ objectivity”

I’m not sure you’re the right person to be knocking the objectivity of another, but you surely have the right to your opinion.
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