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re: Orgeron: It's going to look different, because it is different

Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281927 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:52 pm to
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betting you didn't have any problem with the accusations that Miles had his hands in everything offensively speaking.


Everyone knew Miles disdnt just "meddle" but was the defacto OC after crowton spazzed out.

I never had issues with his offence until 2014 on.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:53 pm to
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Sure. But the offense was much better at seasons end than beginning so I just wanted to get the official rantard narrative



A result of playing weak defenses.

We were 0-2 against anything resembling a good defense.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281927 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:57 pm to
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A result of playing weak defenses. 


Ah the ole floating rantard qualifier. Offenses never improve, they only look better by playing crappy defenses.

Weird, we scored as many points vs Auburn that we did a terrible BYU team.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:59 pm to
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Everyone knew Miles disdnt just "meddle" but was the defacto OC after crowton spazzed out.



Ah, "everyone knew."

Well everyone knows about the current coach.

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Weird, we scored as many points vs Auburn that we did a terrible BYU team.


Wrong. We had a punt return for TD that game, so we didn't do as well offensively.
This post was edited on 5/5/19 at 4:02 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281927 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:01 pm to
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Well everyone knows about the current coach.


Knows what?
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31564 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:06 pm to
What is your issue with people who have an opinion that isn’t, let’s say, as strong as yours about the current HC?

Genuinely asking
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281927 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:10 pm to
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What is your issue with people who have an opinion that isn’t, let’s say, as strong as yours about the current HC?


I totally understand cautious optimism

I don't understand people who have spent two years here being as negative as humanly possible.

Every season regardless of who the coach is fans have some degree of optimism.

I always felt Les won on talent. Orgeron will be no different. It's the jimmies and joes..
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31564 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:12 pm to
Just don’t let the negative as humanly possible ones get to you. Nothing will change their stance. It simply isn’t worth it.

Agreed?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:13 pm to
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I always felt Les won on talent. Orgeron will be no different. It's the jimmies and joes..



When the jimmies and joes are more or less equal, then you need something else to draw upon.

That's where people have their doubts about this current staff. Surely you must know this. It's not people being negative for the sake of being negative.

You think Bama has won as much as they have just because of talent? That's absurd. USC crushed recruiting for years and had one NC to show for it.
This post was edited on 5/5/19 at 4:16 pm
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31564 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:13 pm to
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That's where people have their doubts about this current staff.


Exactly.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
31278 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:15 pm to
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but we’re still going to have the power football game.


And there's the disclaimer.

I want to believe Orgeron, I really do. But we've gotten this same song and dance before.

I'll believe he's allowed change to happen in his offense when there's actually change in his offense.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281927 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:18 pm to
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When the jimmies and joes are more or less equal, then you need something else to draw upon.


i feel very very comfortable headed into next season. I don't think it's all in place yet but I like what I'm seeing. This season feels similar to 2013, but with a better defense.

I can't help those who focus on the negative
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:22 pm to
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i feel very very comfortable headed into next season. I don't think it's all in place yet but I like what I'm seeing. This season feels similar to 2013, but with a better defense.



That's fine. Just admit that you're basing it off of faith rather than empirical evidence.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281927 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:26 pm to
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Just admit that you're basing it off of faith rather than empirical evidence.


Let's see

Second year QB who had a good season
Upgraded RBs
More experience across the board
More varied offense


There's every reason to believe we will be better than last year, and it doesn't require "faith" Every single thing I listed is indeed fact
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:29 pm to
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Nothing will change their stance.

Know what would make people not be negative? O actually fielding a competent offense and actually winning something.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31564 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:31 pm to
I agree. That’s why I said before I’m cautiously optimistic.

Don’t tell me what the offense is going to be like, show me.

We’ve heard this before.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281927 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:33 pm to
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Don’t tell me what the offense is going to be like, show me.


Then just wait

You're welcome to ignore threads touting next season until September
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:33 pm to
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Look at how you’re reacting. You’re being completely defensive and lashing out, more than likely because you can see the points others are making but don’t want to admit it




I'm not lashing out at all. The guy I was responding to had repeated himself repeatedly. He hasn't changed his response or moved on from that response. I've explained repeatedly why O felt that he had to intervene. Now did O have a legitimate gripe or did he not. My opinion is yes he had a legitimate problem. The position of the shitheads here is it doesn't matter what O's problem was they're on Canada's side. Well I've got no problem with that but I'm going to point it out. If you have a problem with that then all I can say is frick off. If you think that's lashing out simply to lash out you're wrong.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47410 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:36 pm to
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. I've explained repeatedly why O felt that he had to intervene


and its called meddling. i dont know why you can't t admit this small detail. o has every right to meddle.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31564 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:41 pm to
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You're welcome to ignore threads touting next season until September


Something wrong with me posting about it now?

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