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re: Orgeron: It's going to look different, because it is different

Posted on 5/5/19 at 11:59 am to
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 11:59 am to
Right. O meddled all year to some
Extent. Canada DIDNT have full autonomy. Canada Did what he could and what he was allowed. im
Shocked some here cannot grasp this.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281925 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:00 pm to
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Canada DIDNT have full autonomy.


Ok cool

Did you see the MSU game?
Posted by Mayhawman
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Member since Dec 2009
10321 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:01 pm to
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Was it Orgerons or Canadas offense?
Duh, O is absolved from everything football.
I surmise O will never be deemed competent enough to ever be responsible for any underperforming aspect.
Ignorance is bliss.

Also quite the double standard, Rog.
Were the oft maligned '05-'16 offenses Miles or Cam,...... or Studs, or Crowton, or Jimbo?
How about QB development under a coach that never held the position of QB coach, same as O?
You get my drift, I hope.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47410 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:01 pm to
well you have to realize that some on here are O fans,instead of lsu fans.
Rodger and Ben are two examples.

they dont want lsu to win if O isnt the coach
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:02 pm to
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Also quite the double standard, Rog.


That it's my contention that Canada be given credit for the offense in 2017?

How is that a double standard?

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Were the oft maligned '05-'16 offenses Miles or Cam,...... or Studs, or Crowton, or Jimbo?


Ultimately it all falls down on the HC to make appropriate changes.
This post was edited on 5/5/19 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:03 pm to
That’s how he got the nickname Meddlin’ Ed
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
82137 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:08 pm to
He meddled heavily at ole miss also. Hopefully now he will stay out of things unless it’s the last 2 minutes of each half where he has to make a call. Then again he is so ultra conservative in those situations at times maybe it’s better if he just lets the coaches coach. Lol. Look no further than bowl game against ND.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281925 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:09 pm to
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Duh, O is absolved from everything football.


Who said this in this thread?

"This is the year to put up or shut up"

Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:09 pm to
4th and goal from the inch line with Guice and he kicks a field goal
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10321 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:10 pm to
And we come full circle to
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Was it Orgerons or Canadas offense?
with the meddling, not the 10pts "success" vs Bama.

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Ultimately it all falls down on the HC to make appropriate changes.
I'm naturally onboard with that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281925 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:12 pm to
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quote:
Was it Orgerons or Canadas offense?
with the meddling, not the 10pts "success" vs Bama.


you make no sense.


Inyour expert opinion, how much meddling took place?

What kind of meddling happened vs MSU and Bama?
This post was edited on 5/5/19 at 12:14 pm
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:13 pm to
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facts and shite......
you have to forgive Ben



Again you simply can't read. I said that O definitely told Canada to cool it with the motion because certain players didn't know the offense. What part of that don't you understand? Canada refused and that's what caused the rift. As usual you either intentionally misunderstand or you simply can't read.

The ones of you that can't seem to understand take your pick. You either can't read or comprehend.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:17 pm to
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It’s not meddling when O does it, it’s spreading wisdom.

He can’t even admit anything even slightly negative about daddy O even when it came out of his own mouth



You're full of shite. It's been explained repeatedly O's motivation for telling Canada to lay off the motion. If you don't want to accept it that's on you. Why you are still coming at me about it is beyond me. You're wasting your time. All you're doing is repeating yourself.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:19 pm to
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I call BS on this.


That's cool Red. You do realize I said that it was my opinion, right? We're all entitled to our opinions.

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The thing about O that have most of the dumbasses all hot and bothered is HOW he was hired..


I believe that to be true. However, o hasn't, up to this point, gotten LSU any closer to winning a title, any title, than Miles teams since 2011. In my opinion

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Stop blaming O for things beyond his control..


Everything I've blamed o for is in his control. Along with most other posters. Or at least I haven't seen anyone blame him for anything that out of his control.

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and stop bringing up his Ol Miss record.....ancient history...


I haven't brought up his Ole Miss record, and didn't bring it up in my post. But if we want to be fair, perhaps you should call out posters like cj2002 and CptBengal (and others) who right up to present times bring up Miles record from Oklahoma State and even his time at LSU. Being that it's ancient history and all.

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Hes here now so I support him because hes the coach....despite the fact that I didnt want him.


Miles deserved everyones support when he was here as well. Even from the people that didn't want him.

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How is getting on here and constantly touting Miles accomplishments beneficial to anyone? Ancient history now....2007 is a long time ago.


I didn't tout Miles accomplishments in my post. And the only time I do is to debate with people who either have a difference of opinion about his time here, don't have a clue about what they're posting, or just flat out lying.

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If youre still living in the past, you will never be able to fully embrace/enjoy any upcoming season...even if it is a special season....just because the guy leading the team isnt the one you wanted it to be......now thats stupid.


Les Miles says hello.

Have a good Cinco de Mayo Red.

That goes for all the other great Tiger fans on the rant.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:22 pm to
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they dont want lsu to win if O isnt the coach



And you have the nerve to call me a liar. You live in a fantasy world.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:23 pm to
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I will only be calling out the posters who trashed O daily for months, not the ones who "had concerns." I think we all "had concerns."


You weren't one of the posters I was talking about then Patrick. Because I agree with you, we all had concerns. Some of us still do. Doesn't mean those concerns are warranted, but some of us still have them.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281925 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:23 pm to
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Miles deserved everyones support when he was here as well.


He had mine

He's been gone over two years, time to cut the umbilical cord, Earl
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:24 pm to
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LOL at to you trying to give 0 credit for the Bama game now.


No, the poster I quoted did

I'm just pointing it out.

When did O pull the offense and Who was in charge



WTF? Was O not the head coach?

Am I missing something?


I'm sure that nobody is lining up to take credit for a loss.
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:24 pm to
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It's been explained repeatedly O's motivation for telling Canada to lay off the motion.
So..... this is not meddling?
Posted by LSU615
Member since Sep 2014
2284 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 12:24 pm to
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No. They had several freshman that were forced to start that didn't know the offense.


Nobody knew the offense yet. It was Canada's first and only season.

Bottom line is O was pressured into hiring Canada (many people think this board had a lot to do with it, believe it or not) and he simply regretted it once it was on his field and he knew it wasn't what he wanted.
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