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re: Opinion on Coach O
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:04 am to Goldrush25
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:04 am to Goldrush25
I would hope I wouldn’t be proven right if he wins a national championship, beacause if I were to be proven right that would mean you didn’t give him credit for helping our team along that path to a championship. But when you make posts implying that fans are giving him chances over and over again just because they were patient enough not to expect a full rebuild in 2 years, it just comes off as a bit whiny and hating just for the purpose of hating.
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:09 am to Terrific Tales
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full rebuild
Rebuild, Really? I think miles last 4 classes ranked 4th among all schools for that time period. This wasn't even close to a rebuild.
Not to mention we went 10-3 in his last season and were ranked top 5 going into 2016.
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 1:11 am
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:16 am to SportTiger1
What O wants is very different from what Miles wanted. Miles went & 8-4 and 9-3 his last 2 years here. We can talk about his 10 win average all we want but that’s revisionist history. In the last couple of years he was here we were ok at best. The team O inherited was not a team built in the way O wants to build a team. I think that is made painfully obvious by O’s national recruiting mission. I would consider anytime a new coach comes in to be a rebuild. It’s a completely new system in most cases.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:22 am to Terrific Tales
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I would consider anytime a new coach comes in to be a rebuild
Most people don't think that when they hear 'entire rebuilt'...but if that's your definition, carry on. It's dishonest and hyperbole, but carry on.
O inherented a team with top 10 talent. That's undeniable. To add, Most coaches come in and adapt to what they have. O had a program in great shape, with the exception of QB and DLINE depth.
Also, W/Ls tell the story. 2014/15 weren't very different than 2017/18
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 1:25 am
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:25 am to SportTiger1
O came in halfway through the year to take over a team that was floundering and unranked. See? I can spin facts however I want too.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:26 am to SportTiger1
What? Our last season with 10 wins was in 2013. In all honesty, last year's team was 11-2, bc we obviously got blatantly fricked over in the tamu game, which should have been a win. We haven't had a team like that since 2011...when we won the sec and made the national title game. Last year was definitely an improvement over the last few seasons under miles. We made our first ny6/bcs caliber game since 2011, and we won the game this time.
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 1:28 am
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:26 am to SportTiger1
You ignored my entire post about why it was a rebuild, took the bottom part which was just extra reasoning, framed it as my only reason, and then said that it was dishonest and hyperbole. This is comedy gold.
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 1:34 am
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:29 am to Terrific Tales
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We can talk about his 10 win average all we want but that’s revisionist history.
11-2
11-2
12-2
8-5
9-4
11-2
13-1 (!!!)
10-3
10-3
8-5
9-3
2-2* (fired mid-season)
Average: 10.18 - 2.90 (10-3 average)
vs Ed Oregeron
9-4
10-3
Average: 9.5 - 3.5 (9-4 average)
Bottom line, it's not revisionist history, it's just math. Les was a ten win coach. Ed once he gets some history going should fall in around the same territory. I threw out 2016 for this comparison since it was a shared season but it doesn't really move the needle. Les would have almost assuredly won out for most of the rest of 2016 like Ed did. I'm not upset that Orgeron is coach or anything, I just think the Les hate on here can be dumb sometimes.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:31 am to ImayGoLesMiles
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Our last season with 10 wins was in 2013
2015 wins 10 if not for the mcneese cancellation.
10 wins in 2010,2011,2012,2013,2015 and it was labelled underachieving.
stop acting like 10 wins is a great accomplishment. only winning 10 games was one of the main reasons people wanted miles gone.
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We haven't had a team like that since 2011.
2012 10 wins in the regular season.
hell we finished 3rd in our division last year and if sec tie breakers were used on the entire sec standings ,we wouldve finished 5th in the sec as
UGA and Bama had better sec records Florida and a&m beat us head to head.
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 1:34 am
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:32 am to Walnut
Sure. My point wasn’t that the average didn’t exist or was inaccurate. My point was as a coach he didn’t lose his job because of his average wins. He lost his job because his last few seasons didn’t cut it, which is why it’s revisionist history to say he was fired even though he was a 10 win coach. He wasn’t performing like a 10 win coach when he was fired.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:33 am to Terrific Tales
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they were patient enough not to expect a full rebuild in 2 years
First off, this wasn't a "rebuild." He had a lot of weapons at his disposal in his first year. He inherited a lot of talent.
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it just comes off as a bit whiny and hating just for the purpose of hating.
This isn't true. You may want it to be true, and if that's the case, so be it. Orgeron himself has said he understands what the expectations are at LSU and he welcomes them.
This is what will make him be a better coach. Having concerns based on his past resume' isn't bashing or hating him.
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 1:36 am
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:35 am to la_birdman
Having concerns about his resume isn’t the same as saying “how many chances are we gonna give the guy?!?!” when he just gave us our best season in a while.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:35 am to Terrific Tales
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The team O inherited was not a team built in the way O wants to build a team
he inherited....
NFL qb
2 NFL rbs
NFL wrs
NFL olineman
NFL te
and a defense littered with future nfl players
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:37 am to Rickdaddy4188
Why are people saying this. Winning 10 games is not why people wanted Les gone. That’s a dumb thing to even say. We went 8-4, 9-3, and then half of an awful season when he was fired.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:37 am to FulshearTexasTiger
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Who could have done better to this point in CEO’s tenure as head coach of LSU??? No frickING one!!!
holy shite....
how did this gem slip through the cracks?
you're claiming that O is the best coach in cfb? because that's what is insinuated when you say no other cfb coach couldve done better
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:39 am to Terrific Tales
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Having concerns about his resume isn’t the same as saying “how many chances are we gonna give the guy?!?
To be fair, it is the basis of a lot of O lovers. "But wait til next year when such and such is here and yada yada is back from a season ending injury...."
I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm really not.
Yes, he has improved every season since he's been the HC. That's great. Honestly, I'm not being sarcastic. It is.
But when fans voice concerns, we're labeled as O bashers and all that other nonsense. Not saying you're doing that but that's how it's been lately.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:39 am to Rickdaddy4188
That’s a stupid and generalistic way to look at that.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:39 am to genuineLSUtiger
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LSU is a destiny job for him.
so was ole miss and usc
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:41 am to Terrific Tales
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Why are people saying this
You mean sort of the favoritism of Miles? Miles won main hardware. That's what fans want. Win that, and any coach will win the fans loyalty.
O has done very well for himself but he hasn't won the West yet. This is his year to get it done. He will lose a lot of players after this year.
Time to get it done.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:41 am to Rickdaddy4188
Dude. LSU winning 11 (because I refuse to count tamu as a loss, bc we got jobbed and won the game on the field) games last season with the question marks we had, inexperience, and our offensive line struggling like it did was not underachieving. Lol, our rbs were subpar compared to what LSU is used to as well as a new qb transfer in his first season at LSU and the sec. Miles wouldnt have won 10 games with that team and the problems we had last season, no frickin way. We wouldn't have had burrow and probably not Cole tracy, we would have been starting myles Brennan, Lowell narcisse, or McMillan. Man. You are really a miles lover huh? Guarantee you that team wouldn't have won 10 games last season with miles still coaching. No way in hell. So yeah, it was an improvement, considering the situation we were in. O and the staff did a hell of a job. Get off O's arse and stop riding Miles dick. There's a reason that Kansas was the only program that wanted miles. I will leave that up to your interpretation.
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