re: On this date in 1991 the Hudson "Curley" Hallman era at LSU began in Athens,Ga

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It's not that Archer couldn't recruit... it's Arnsparger who didn't. Archer took over with a loaded senior class leftover tform the Stovall days and won with them, but the talent drain was apparent in the underclassmen. Archer wasn't elite recruiter, but Arnsparger was fairly indifferent to it.

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No. Really, really just no. Arnsparger may not have liked recruiting, but he brought in a shite load of talent. I'm copying some info that will probably be nearly unreadable here, but if you copy it into Excel it should be easy to read:

Draft Year Rd No Overall Team Player City State HS/JC Pos Pos Group College Recruit Year Coach When Recruited Coach When Drafted
1988 1 27 27 Bears DAVIS, Wendell Shreveport (LA) Louisiana WR WR LSU 1984 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1988 3 24 79 Broncos GUIDRY, Kevin Lake Charles (LA) Louisiana CB DB LSU 1983 Jerry Stovall Mike Archer
1988 4 15 97 Patriots MARTIN, Sam (Sammy) New Orleans (LA) Louisiana WR WR LSU 1984 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1988 5 2 111 Lions ANDOLSEK, Eric Thibodaux (LA) Louisiana G OL LSU 1984 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1988 9 24 245 Bears MAGEE, Rogie Bogalusa (LA) Louisiana WR WR LSU 1983 Jerry Stovall Mike Archer
1988 12 13 318 Cardinals CARRIER, Chris Eunice (LA) Louisiana DB DB LSU 1983 Jerry Stovall Mike Archer
1988 12 15 320 Dolphins KINCHEN, Brian Baton Rouge (LA) Louisiana TE TE LSU 1983 Jerry Stovall Mike Archer
1989 1 10 10 Cardinals HILL, Eric D. Galveston (TX) Texas LB LB LSU 1985 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1989 2 10 38 Falcons NORWOOD, Ralph E. New Orleans (LA) Louisiana OT OL LSU 1984 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1989 3 22 78 Giants JACKSON, Gregory A. (Greg) Miami (FL) Florida S DB LSU 1985 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1989 4 22 106 Saints MAYES, Michael O. (Mike) DeRidder (LA) Louisiana CB DB LSU 1984 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1989 7 4 171 Chiefs SANCHO, Ron Avondale (LA) Louisiana LB LB LSU 1985 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1989 9 28 251 49ers HARMON, Rudy Beaumont (TX) Texas LB LB LSU 1987 Mike Archer Mike Archer
1990 2 18 43 Steelers DAVIDSON, Kenny Shreveport (LA) Louisiana DE DL LSU 1985 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1990 3 6 59 Patriots HODSON, Tommy Mathews (LA) Louisiana QB QB LSU 1985 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1990 4 7 88 Bears MOSS, Tony Bossier City (LA) Louisiana WR WR LSU 1985 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1990 4 19 100 Bills FULLER, Eddie Leesville (LA) Louisiana RB RB LSU 1986 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1990 6 27 164 Broncos HALIBURTON, Ronnie Port Arthur (TX) Texas TE TE LSU 1986 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1990 8 16 209 Steelers DUNBAR, Karl Opelousas (LA) Louisiana DT DL LSU 1985 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1990 9 26 246 Giants JAMES, Clint New Orleans (LA) Louisiana DE DL LSU 1985 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1991 1 21 21 Chiefs WILLIAMS, Harvey Hempstead (TX) Texas RB RB LSU 1986 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1991 7 1 168 Patriots MILLER, Blake Alexandria (LA) Louisiana C OL LSU 1986 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer
1991 11 7 285 Lions WATKINS, Walker "Slip" Ft.Lauderdale (FL) Florida WR WR LSU 1986 Bill Arnsparger Mike Archer


eta: note that Arnsparger was only here 3 yrs.

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There were plenty of NFL players for Saban to work with his 1st year.

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Yeah, but we are talking about a different level. I don't know what to say to people who don't recognize how much more talent Saban brought in. Of his predecessors, only Arnsparger came close.

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GO Frick yourself for reminding us of this.

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It’s probably a good thing to remember just how awful things can get. We’re all probably a little spoiled from the golden era of LSU football inder Saban and Miles.

I think there’s a good number of us who were at least kids during those miserable years, but as time goes on you’ll have more and more posters who weren’t even alive during that time.