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On a positive note - JD LSU career passing
Posted on 10/1/23 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 10/1/23 at 1:20 pm
Jayden Daniels with 4623 yards now has the ninth most career passing yards in LSU history, knocking Allen Risher off the top 10 (bittersweet for me since Risher was the QB when I was at LSU) and pushing Danny Etling down to 10th. Reasonable to assume that he passes Jefferson next week. Bold are marks he could reasonably pass. Italicized are possibilities but would take continually superb play. No way he catches JB or Hodson.
The list ahead of him now is as follows
1 Tommy Hodson 9,115
2 Joe Burrow 8,565
3 Jeff Wickersham 6,921
4 JaMarcus Russell 6,625
5 Jamie Howard 6,158
6 Herb Tyler 5,876
7 Zach Mettenberger 5,783
8 Jordan Jefferson 4,733
The list ahead of him now is as follows
1 Tommy Hodson 9,115
2 Joe Burrow 8,565
3 Jeff Wickersham 6,921
4 JaMarcus Russell 6,625
5 Jamie Howard 6,158
6 Herb Tyler 5,876
7 Zach Mettenberger 5,783
8 Jordan Jefferson 4,733
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 1:24 pm to mdomingue
Tommy Hodson was here for 5 years (4 year starter).
Joe Burrow was here 2 years..and fell 550 yds (less than 2 average games for him) short of Tommy’s career yardage numbers.
That just puts an exclamation point on what a special talent Joe really was.
Joe Burrow was here 2 years..and fell 550 yds (less than 2 average games for him) short of Tommy’s career yardage numbers.
That just puts an exclamation point on what a special talent Joe really was.
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 10/1/23 at 1:46 pm to Godfather1
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Tommy Hodson was here for 5 years (4 year starter).
Joe Burrow was here 2 years..and fell 550 yds (less than 2 average games for him) short of Tommy’s career yardage numbers.
That just puts an exclamation point on what a special talent Joe really was.
Indeed, add in he sat out most of the 4th quarter in 8 games.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 1:59 pm to Godfather1
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Tommy Hodson was here for 5 years (4 year starter)
No he wasn't
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LSU has seen some very talented true freshmen make an immediate impact over the years, and in a ranking of the top 50 true freshmen seasons of all time from ESPN’s Bill Connelly, the Tigers appear several times.
Two players are among the top 50 overall, while another two are among the top 10 at their position. Here’s a breakdown.
Tommy Hodson (1986) - No. 9 QB
LINK
Posted on 10/1/23 at 2:09 pm to mdomingue
So top 5 and possible too 3 by end of season
Posted on 10/1/23 at 2:14 pm to Sterling Archer
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So top 5 and possible too 3 by end of season
That's what I expect barring injury
Posted on 10/1/23 at 2:17 pm to mdomingue
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Indeed, add in he sat out most of the 4th quarter in 8 games.
Well to be fair. The reason he was sitting out is because he had shredded the defense the previous 3 quarters, so I don’t think that really would’ve changed his numbers.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 2:18 pm to JodyPlauche
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No he wasn't
He redshirted his freshman year in 1985
https://lsusports.net/sports/fb/roster/player/tommy-hodson/
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FRESHMAN SEASON (1986)
Became the top freshman in LSU history and was tabbed the SEC Freshman of the Year by the Knoxville-News Sentinel and the league’s Rookie of the Year by the Florida Times-Union … Earned first team All-SEC accolades from AP and from the league’s head coaches … Named honorable mention All-America by several media outlets, and chosen second-team Freshman All-America by Football News … Set LSU records for most TD passes in a season (19) and most consecutive passing attempts in a single game without an interception (39 vs. Ole Miss) … Established SEC freshman records for most yards gained passing (2,261) and most touchdown passes … First freshman in SEC history to pass for more than 2,000 yards … Passed for over 230 yards six separate occasions … Finsihed the season as No.6 in the nation for passing efficiency … State Freshman of the Year by the Louisiana Sportswriters Association … Recipient of the Percy E. Roberts Award for the team’s most valuable offensive player.
HIGH SCHOOL
As a senior at Central Lafourche High in 1984, he completed 210 of 363 passes for 3,006 yards and 28 TDs … Was named an Adidas and a Bally All-America … Also cited as the 1984 Louisiana Quad-A state player of the year … Earned three letters in football … Averaged 27.4 points a game in basketball his senior year.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 2:20 pm to mdomingue
Not sure why you'd use career yards as a metric for somebody who's only going to be here 2 years. It would be much more relevant to use yards per game or yards per season
Posted on 10/1/23 at 2:25 pm to Tiger1242
quote:I agree because we would not be throwing anymore but I'm just saying that in 8 qtrs he may pick up that difference.
Well to be fair. The reason he was sitting out is because he had shredded the defense the previous 3 quarters, so I don’t think that really would’ve changed his numbers.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 2:49 pm to emanresu
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Not sure why you'd use career yards as a metric for somebody who's only going to be here 2 years. It would be much more relevant to use yards per game or yards per season
He has the 5th best single season. If I had to speculate where he will end up He will have the second, third, or fourth best season and the 6th best season. Pushing one of Mett's seasons off the list and being the only QB besides JB with two seasons on the list.
Per game, it would likely be JB then either Daniels or Rohan but I ain't trying to figure that out
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 10/1/23 at 3:03 pm to mdomingue
The problem with the career passing yards is that prior to 03 the bowl games didn’t count
Only Burrow, Jefferson, Mettenberger, and Russell’s bowl stats counted
Only Burrow, Jefferson, Mettenberger, and Russell’s bowl stats counted
Posted on 10/1/23 at 3:23 pm to JodyPlauche
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LSU has seen some very talented true freshmen make an immediate impact over the years, and in a ranking of the top 50 true freshmen seasons of all time from ESPN’s Bill Connelly, the Tigers appear several times.
Two players are among the top 50 overall, while another two are among the top 10 at their position. Here’s a breakdown.
Tommy Hodson (1986) - No. 9 QB
That’s not correct.
I was at LSU at the time. Tommy was a true freshman in 1985 when he redshirted (Jeff Wickersham was a senior and a starter). Tommy started in 1986 as a RS freshman.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 3:40 pm to AlecRock23
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The problem with the career passing yards is that prior to 03 the bowl games didn’t count
Only Burrow, Jefferson, Mettenberger, and Russell’s bowl stats counted
I don't have the time or the inclination (more the inclination) to go back and add in bowl stats so I just have the listed records to go by. And in the listed records, Jayden Daniels will show up as I have indicated.
I guess some in our fanbase just can't see anything positive without trying to qualify it.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 3:42 pm to mdomingue
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mdomingue
My bad! The other article lied to me.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 4:16 pm to JodyPlauche
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My bad! The other article lied to me.
No worries, I made the exact same mistake using the same article you did. It was not clear when it said freshman that they meant redshirt freshman.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 4:18 pm to Godfather1
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That just puts an exclamation point on what a special talent Joe really was.
No doubt.
However its not fair to judge a QB from generation to generation.
Different offensive coaches and different rules.
Hodson had one receiver, Wendell Davis, that could have played on the 19 team. Joe had three that are playing NFL and two of those are NFL stars.
No doubt Daniels has three that will make an NFL roster and maybe five or six.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 4:42 pm to mdomingue
No I agree with you daniels is a great QB……just that the stats are skewered prior to 2003
Guys like rohan are messed up by that
But I love Daniels so you got the wrong idea bud
Guys like rohan are messed up by that
But I love Daniels so you got the wrong idea bud
Posted on 10/1/23 at 4:51 pm to AlecRock23
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No I agree with you daniels is a great QB……just that the stats are skewered prior to 2003
Guys like rohan are messed up by that
But I love Daniels so you got the wrong idea bud
Apologies, it's been rough in here the last 24 hours
And yes, I think the NCAA should try to go back and add in the numbers where they can.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 4:52 pm to mdomingue
Herb Tyler was one of my favorites. That guy would ball out every game
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