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re: Ok..will LSU win the SEC championshop with JJ as QB

Posted on 8/11/11 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by Stromile Swift
Houston
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/11/11 at 1:21 pm to
Thanks for the great insight, booky.

Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/11/11 at 1:22 pm to
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It is a team sport and the only position we were missing last year was a qb.
It is a TEAM sport.

LSU might have been more successful if the pass blocking would have been better and the receivers would have caught more passes.

LSU certainly would have been more successful with better playcalling. That problem has been addressed.

I expect the pass blocking and catching to be better this year too.
Posted by A1tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/11/11 at 1:25 pm to
We have finished 4th and 3rd in a 6 team division under his supposed lead. I just don't like wasting talent because we are set on this guy improving. I would rather take someone with tons of upside and gain experience. Mett is one for one in outperforming JJ head to head on national tv and against an sec defense. Who is to say he couldn't do it week after week. We know after three years of hoping that JJ just doesn't have it.
Posted by A1tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/11/11 at 1:31 pm to
If receivers could get catchable balls consistently then they would catch them. They were caught off guard sometimes because they were used to inaccuracy. The oline was not that bad. Teams played close to the line to stop the run and JJ couldn't read a childrens picture book. Guys were open and he couldn't find them because he doesn't look. He should have picked apart defenses all year with short routes and quick reads.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 8/11/11 at 1:39 pm to
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Mett is one for one in outperforming JJ head to head on national tv and against an sec defense.
One scrimmage does not make a summer.


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Who is to say he couldn't do it week after week
Apparently, the coaching staff. You know, the professional who are paid to make that decision.


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We know after three years of hoping that JJ just doesn't have it.
This statement is how we know you are ignorant and biased.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10452 posts
Posted on 8/11/11 at 1:40 pm to
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If JJ could have led the offense at all in the arky game then the two bombs would have been irrelevant.
Irrelevant?????
This ain't the B12 and you can't give up 450+ yds and expect victory very often.
JJ actually had a better CR than Mallet and over 200yds total O.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 8/11/11 at 1:43 pm to
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If receivers could get catchable balls consistently then they would catch them. They were caught off guard sometimes because they were used to inaccuracy.
This is just a huge pile of crap.


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The oline was not that bad.
Yes, they were. The passblocking was bad. Most of them were younger and less experienced. It will be better this year.


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Teams played close to the line to stop the run and JJ couldn't read a childrens picture book. He should have picked apart defenses all year with short routes and quick reads.
I agree that the playcalling sucked. That problem has been addressed.
Posted by A1tiger
Lake Charles
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Posted on 8/11/11 at 1:58 pm to

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Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/11/11 at 1:59 pm to
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We have finished 4th and 3rd in a 6 team division under his supposed lead


Are you sure you are an football LSU fan?

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Mett is one for one in outperforming JJ head to head on national tv and against an sec defense


Yeah, that must be why Mett is running 1st string...ohhhhhhh wait...make that 3rd string, huh.

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Who is to say he couldn't do it week after week


To this point in time, the "Who" would be the LSU coaching staff.

Posted by A1tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2008
1047 posts
Posted on 8/11/11 at 2:06 pm to
Even in the sec it is ok to produce more than 4 net yards in a game. Auburn did fine last year with producing points when their defense struggled. How many times did defense and sp teams bail out the offense? Defense was never allowed to have a bad game or we lost. Why couldn't JJ lead the offense to points after having incredible field position in the MIss st, mcneese, auburn, or Arkansas games. Instead we set field goal records and depended on defense. 2007 we needed offense. Even in 2003 the offense had to step up in the Arkansas game and we wont have a defense like 03.
Posted by A1tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2008
1047 posts
Posted on 8/11/11 at 2:14 pm to
Yep. Just don't want the team to miss out on a championship because of blinded fools expecting our incredible qb to improve. By blinded fools, I mean stubborn coaches. Why do we settle and why do ppl believe JJ will win a championship. Was it the capital one bowl loss, our sec west 3rd place finish, his national ranking which is clearly everyone elses fought, or his spring game performance.
Posted by A1tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2008
1047 posts
Posted on 8/11/11 at 2:29 pm to
The play calling may have been addressed but the inaccurate qb thing has not. Short routes were there, he is just incapable of making the correct read. Our qb could make the colts oline look terrible by not making decisions quick enough.
Posted by A75CADDY
BatonRouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
415 posts
Posted on 8/11/11 at 2:35 pm to
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My take on JJ! He seems to be mentally flipping through the playbook pages when he gets to the line of scrimmage to determine what play he called in the huddle. Mechanics have not changed, he still throws like a javelin track man. His arm strength can get him out of some situtation and his running skills can also. He will continue to make bad decisions with his throws because he will not understand the defensive schemes and always throw to double coverage. This can't be coached in one year.
Look at video of past performances and video of practice this year. Samemo! Samemo! Mett to the rescue this year for Tigers.
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Tdeucen. how have you been. new handle same old spill eh?
Posted by A75CADDY
BatonRouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
415 posts
Posted on 8/11/11 at 2:37 pm to
[quote]I love when people think that JJ can wake up and morph into an sec caliber qb. Mett can't be worse than 112 out of 119 qbs in the nation. And if he is, then it won't make a difference because we competed well last year with no qb. When the defense slips like in the Arkansas game, you should be able to depend on a qb that can make something happen. Instead we had great starting field position and had to settle for field goals. I mentioned the Ark game because it is an example of when the defense and special teams didn't play great. The problem is the defense bailed JJ out all year and he couldnt return the favor in one game.[/quote

Rewatch the Alabama and Ole Miss games from last year and get back to me. Just because you want something to be so doesn't mean you have to make stuff up to justify it. SMDH
Posted by A75CADDY
BatonRouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
415 posts
Posted on 8/11/11 at 2:41 pm to
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But they also owned 11 wins along with the special teams. If JJ could have led the offense at all in the arky game then the two bombs would have been irrelevant. Teams sold out on the run and put the pressure on JJ. He failed time and time again. When he was able to complete a "routine" pass, it went for big gains due to single coverage. He just couldn't complete enough. It is a team sport and the only position we were missing last year was a qb.


Fail again. You fail to mention that JLee also had drives that started with excellent field position, but didn't move the ball. Bottom the line the play calling was atrocious when we needed it on offense.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 8/11/11 at 2:56 pm to
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Just don't want the team to miss out on a championship because of blinded fools expecting our incredible qb to improve. By blinded fools, I mean stubborn coaches


Well, I'm hard pressed to view a staff that has LSU ranked in the top 5 nationally in winning percentage among BCS school since 05 as "blinded fools"...sorry, but that just doesn't compute in my mind.

I find the Cotton Bowl more relevant than the 09 Cap One bowl, but each to our own.

Posted by A1tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2008
1047 posts
Posted on 8/11/11 at 3:12 pm to
Ok I watched the bama game and saw all two of his good throws. If you dont think the defense played well then maybe you should rewatch. JJ did not have a great game and the ole miss game was the Ridley show. A&M was the only decent game for him and unfortunately they do not play in our conference yet. The topic was sec championship.
Posted by JKtiger4ever
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2011
357 posts
Posted on 8/11/11 at 3:19 pm to
Yes. Think about it, we were two games from winning it last season...

Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 8/11/11 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by EyeOfTheTiger311
Lafayette, LA
Member since Aug 2005
4594 posts
Posted on 8/11/11 at 3:56 pm to
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Yes. And the National Championship. I'll go ahead and guarantee it.


+1, I'll jump on this wagon with you

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