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Posted on 12/2/08 at 8:44 am to TheEye
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Ogeron
quote:
great recruiter
the Rant is littered with myths of Bebe being this all-world recruiter. his rankings while at OM reflect otherwise.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 8:53 am to Smoke Green
What I'm confused about, is everyone saying if we get coach O, he becomes recruiting coordinator, what about Josh Henson? He hasn't done a bad job, we are having a banner year as far as recruiting, I guess O would get some bullshite title, associate recruiting coordinator?
Posted on 12/2/08 at 8:58 am to Smoke Green
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the Rant is littered with myths of Bebe being this all-world recruiter. his rankings while at OM reflect otherwise.
Going head to head with whom in his home state?
LSU? Yeah, we aren't that easily picked, but schools do get em just the same. With his recruiting talents at LSU, I feel pretty darn good let me tell ya.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:00 am to josh336
they might throw an Asst. title at him...give him multi areas of responsibilities. i don't know how it would work, or even if it could. i do know that Bebe is a great DL coach.
you're right though. i think Henson has done a good job as recruiting co. and the fact is, the legend of Bebe's mythical recruiting skills were not reflected in his class rankings during 3 yrs. at OM.
he failed on the field, and off. just plain bad.
you're right though. i think Henson has done a good job as recruiting co. and the fact is, the legend of Bebe's mythical recruiting skills were not reflected in his class rankings during 3 yrs. at OM.
he failed on the field, and off. just plain bad.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:02 am to Smoke Green
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Bebe's mythical recruiting skills were not reflected in his class rankings during 3 yrs. at OM.
I disagree, he did about as well as anyone could recruiting for Ole Miss. Also, some of his low classes are attributed to his lack of success as a head coach. If his team was winning 8 games a year, he would have gotten better recruits there. He or anyone else shouldn't have a problem recruiting at LSU.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:05 am to Mike da Tigah
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With his recruiting talents at LSU, I feel pretty darn good let me tell ya.
what talents? he had a top 20 class once. his other two classed were 27th and 30th.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:06 am to Smoke Green
Recruits come to LSU b/c it's LSU. Ogeron had to beat the bushes to get recruits to go to Ole Miss. That isn't a problem at LSU.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:13 am to josh336
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I disagree, he did about as well as anyone could recruiting for Ole Miss
he did marginally better than Cut did, in his last 3 yrs.
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Also, some of his low classes are attributed to his lack of success as a head coach
he stunk it up as a HC, and he failed as his own DC during his first 2 yrs. at OM.
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He or anyone else shouldn't have a problem recruiting at LSU.
he loves to recruit...he said that numerous times. i do agree he would have more success recruiting for LSU, than against.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:16 am to Smoke Green
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he did marginally better than Cut did, in his last 3 yrs
And Cutcliffe was a great coach with a more attractive program. So what does that tell you about O's recruiting abilities?
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:22 am to Smoke Green
quote:
the Rant is littered with myths of Bebe being this all-world recruiter. his rankings while at OM reflect otherwise.
Ole Miss average star rating per class before Orgeron
2003: 2.57 stars
2004: 2.43 stars
Orgeron's average star rating per class
2005: 2.56 stars
2006: 3.20 stars
2007: 3.14 stars
Number of 4 & 5 star players each year:
per O
2003: 0 FIVE stars; 3 FOUR stars
2004: 0 FIVE stars; 1 FOUR star
Post O
2005: 2 FIVE stars; 0 FOUR star
2006: 2 FIVE stars; 8 FOUR stars
2007: 1 FIVE star; 6 FOUR stars
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:24 am to josh336
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So what does that tell you about O's recruiting abilities?
it tells me that he was marginally better at recruiting than Cut.
it also tells me he was an epic failure as a HC and a DC. he loss more games each yr., than Cut did in his worst yr.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:27 am to Smoke Green
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he loss more games each yr., than Cut did in his worst yr.
But he wouldn't be coming here as a head coach, or DC, we are talking DL and recruiting
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:29 am to SPEEDY
OM recruiting ranking's:
'02 - 33
'03 - 38
'04 - 30
avg. finish - 34th
'05 - 30
'06 - 16
'07 - 27
avg. finish - 24th
'02 - 33
'03 - 38
'04 - 30
avg. finish - 34th
'05 - 30
'06 - 16
'07 - 27
avg. finish - 24th
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:30 am to Smoke Green
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what talents? he had a top 20 class once. his other two classed were 27th and 30th.
They took care of LSU and Florida this year didn't they?
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:33 am to choupiquesushi
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Be Be.. has never been a coordinator
he was his own DC at OM for the '05 and '06 seasons. his stats were just awful.
he hired John Thompson as DC in '07.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:36 am to ItNeverRains
What makes anyone think that Orgeron, formerly DC at USC, recently a Head Coach at an SEC school and currently on an NFL staff, would leave where he is for a college position that isn't at least Defensive Coordinator?
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:36 am to Mike da Tigah
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They took care of LSU and Florida this year didn't they?
more of a reflection of HDN, than Bebe.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:47 am to Smoke Green
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more of a reflection of HDN, than Bebe.
I doubt that, but the fact is, they held us to the lowest points of the season.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:49 am to nycajun
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formerly DC at USC
wrong
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