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Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:13 am to
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:13 am to
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I don’t mean this in a bad way, but I’d be OK with Slaughter going to the draft. Maybe his game will click in the minors


Or his game clicks next season and he makes himself a ton of money. Worst case it doesn't and he ends up around the same spot as this season, maybe higher if his draft position was compromised because of signability.

Slaughter wouldn't be smart to leave. Sanders would be smart to leave.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:15 am to
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Which is why I think he should sign. Now I'm not saying I want him to, but for what's best for him, I think signing is the right call. We also have to find spots on the roster for all these newcomers and players who are returning.


It wouldn't be best for him at all, under any scenario. Don't believe the rant narrative on Slaughter, it is the most ignorant one of any player on the team.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12757 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:16 am to
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Slaughter wouldn't be smart to leave. Sanders would be smart to leave.


I disagree on slaughter. He played so well at the end of the season and with the number of players we have on the infield, if he struggles he will have a short leash. Dude has leverage, he should use it sign and go into the farm system.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:18 am to
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I disagree on slaughter. He played so well at the end of the season and with the number of players we have on the infield, if he struggles he will have a short leash. Dude has leverage, he should use it sign and go into the farm system


Nope. He has the same leverage next season. He will only be a junior.

You want Slaughter pushed out the door for a shiny new toy. Who is to say that any of these freshman don't have the same learning curve as he has had? Slaughter has the ability to be a key piece in the middle of the order next season. You don't wish a guy with his upside to be gone.
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 8:20 am
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:19 am to
Again, that’s my point and why I think he could sign
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12757 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:19 am to
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Don't believe the rant narrative on Slaughter, it is the most ignorant one of any player on the team.


Don't worry I don't. It's just my opinion on a kid who was one of our most dangerous hitters in the post season. We have a lot of infielders as well so it's not a bad decision to sign.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87206 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:21 am to
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Dude has leverage, he should use it sign and go into the farm system.
He will still have leverage. This isn't a reason to sign.

I think Slaughter should sign for a couple reasons already mentioned but also simply because he's already so "old". Yes, he could make more money by waiting a year, but he's about to be 22. He's basically 2 years behind already.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12757 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:25 am to
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You want Slaughter pushed out the door for a shiny new toy. Who is to say that any of these freshman don't have the same learning curve as he has had? Slaughter has the ability to be a key piece in the middle of the order next season. You don't wish a guy with his upside to be gone.


I'm not wishing anyone gone. When I said we have a lot of infielders and newcomers, that's just the reason behind my opinion of why I think he SHOULD leave. I don't want him to, I was just giving an opinion. With how he performed at the end of the season, the number of infielders on the roster, and the leverage he has that was how I formulated an opinion of that I think he will leave.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:27 am to
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and the leverage he has


Stop saying this. His leverage will have zero to do with him staying or leaving. He has the same leverage next season.
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
9986 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:38 am to
But, where's all the conjecture and opinion in this post? How dare you bring factual information to this board. How can we melt?

Seriously though, solid post my man!!
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12757 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:48 am to
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Stop saying this. His leverage will have zero to do with him staying or leaving. He has the same leverage next season.


Just because you have leverage has a sophomore and junior doesnt mean that it's not a reason. If there are an influx number of infielders and you struggle and get benched your draft stock does not improve, thus your leverage as a junior is not as important as your leverage as a sophomore when you ended the season on a hot streak.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87206 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:50 am to
It's not a reason because it's not something he will lose if he stays. That's a fact.
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If there are an influx number of infielders and you struggle and get benched your draft stock does not improve, thus your leverage as a junior is not as important as your leverage as a sophomore when you ended the season on a hot streak.
You can't just combine falling draft stock due to performance with class leverage and call them the same thing.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:52 am to
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Just because you have leverage has a sophomore and junior doesnt mean that it's not a reason. If there are an influx number of infielders and you struggle and get benched your draft stock does not improve, thus your leverage as a junior is not as important as your leverage as a sophomore when you ended the season on a hot streak.



Slaughter may very well sign, but I don't agree with your logic at all. I think he will have to play himself out of the lineup next season, not play himself into it. Even if he would return and end up not starting full time, I don't think his draft stock goes any lower. The potential is still going to be there. Teams aren't drafting him based off of just his stats.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12757 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:53 am to
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You can't just combine falling draft stock due to performance with class leverage and call them the same thing


I'm not but they're connected. If your benched, your draft stock is not improving. If you are then say for the sake of argument drafted at the exact same spot, you're not going to have the same sway to get the money you want. They're all connected. No it is not the same thing and that wasnt what I was saying.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12757 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:55 am to
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Slaughter may very well sign, but I don't agree with your logic at all. 


That's fair
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:55 am to
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If you are then say for the sake of argument drafted at the exact same spot, you're not going to have the same sway to get the money you want.


How do you figure this?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87206 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:58 am to
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I'm not but they're connected.
Not in the context we are discussing. If you want to say that he should go because he could play worse, then fine. That's one, single reason. Saying he should come back or he'll lose leverage (which is defined by having/not having remaining eligibility) is completely false. You can't just change the definition to make yourself "right".
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12757 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:03 am to
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Saying he should come back or he'll lose leverage 


That's not what I'm saying.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87206 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:05 am to
You said he should use his leverage implying he wouldn't have it if he came back.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12757 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:09 am to
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How do you figure this?


Teams don't want to pay above slot value regardless, that's why players fall a lot of times. By having a bad season or an incomplete season, make it less likely they will come off that value and pay your price tag. Watson had a much better season but he had a high price tag and he fell. I may have worded things incorrectly, cause seems people are concerned about this one point, I apologize I was not meaning he would lose leverage between his sophomore or junior year. I was just meaning with all the circumstances regarding position players coming in or back from injury or still on team, how he ended the season that it would help with his negotiation and make him more likely to sign.
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