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re: Offensive talent digressing under Crowton...
Posted on 12/2/10 at 11:56 am to Hitchcock
Posted on 12/2/10 at 11:56 am to Hitchcock
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You couldn't tell me why Crowton is a much more highly respected OC in the coaching field than Jimbo yesterday, and nothing's changed today.
That's because your statement that "Crowton is a much more highly respected OC than Fisher" is completely fabricated.
You're asking me to give you a reason why your fabricated opinion is false.
Do you believe being an NFL OC is a more respectable position than being the head coach at Florida State?
How many major college head coaches have left their position to be a coordinator in the pros?
How many NFL coordinators have left their position to be a college head coach?
And, if Crowton is such a "respected" coach, then why has he never been offered a head coaching job at premiere college program or an NFL team?
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 11:56 am to Hitchcock
This is Les Miles team and Les Miles deserves the blame. He makes all of the calls on personnel and the end of game/ critical play sitations. If you want to give him credit for his 4th down calls that work and lead to wins, then you must also acknowledge his personnel and playcalling gaffes over the past 5 seasons. LSU's image as a football program took a beating this year whether you want to see it or not.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 11:57 am to lsuoaktree
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Dude you cant argue the record WE ARE 10-2! don't matter what talent you have if you don't have a descent QB then you have nothing. So you are saying with another OC then what would our record be?
We aren't 10-2 because of Crowton, we are 10-2 in spite of Crowton. Yes, if LSU had a good offense we would have gone 11-1, possibly 12-0 this season.
You keep saying Jefferson and Lee are shite, the fact is they were both 4 stars coming out of high school. It's not the QBs that are shite, it's the person teaching them how to play QB that's shite. Can you explain why BOTH QBs suck? Why BOTH QBs are inconsistent? Why BOTH QBs are holding the team back?
It's because Gary Crowton is the QB coach, and he sucks at coaching QBs. Yet we run a spread passing offense with iformation mixed in even though we have shitty QBs. Go figure.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:03 pm to Chimlim
So Crowton is to blame for JJ starring his receivers down? Throwing missles for fade routes? Come on man! JL also stares his receivers down and throws the ball into double coverages? Again their brains are just not there and my point is no matter who is coaching them that would never change. We are 10-2 and that is reality along with we need a SEC QB. Your ignorance is oozing through my computer screen. wow just wow!
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:04 pm to lsuoaktree
4 stars 5 stars whatever JJ and JL will NEVER be sec caliber qbs and I dont give a shite if Joe Montana, Peyton Manning and John Elway were all tutoring them!
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:11 pm to Antonio Moss
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That's because your statement that "Crowton is a much more highly respected OC than Fisher" is completely fabricated.
And, if Crowton is such a "respected" coach, then why has he never been offered a head coaching job at premiere college program or an NFL team?
No, it's not fabricated. Crowton's coached BYU didn't he? You being a born in the 80's kid, that means nothing to you. He's more suited for the NFL though, maybe his next stop.
This post was edited on 12/2/10 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:11 pm to BabyTac
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digressing
that's funny.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:15 pm to LSUextreme
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This is Les Miles team and Les Miles deserves the blame.
Yes, damn him for making LSU look good! He should stop winning 10 or more games.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:15 pm to lsuoaktree
I don't know how many times I have to say I know we are 10-2, and that's not what I'm arguing about. You're blaming all of our offensive inconsistencies the past three years on QB play and not one bit on Gary Crowton? That's ridiculous.
Look at Crowton's history, everywhere he has been he has taken a great offense and turned them into dogshit. Here at LSU, he has taken a great offense (2007) and has turned it into dogshit (2009 and 2010) You can blame it on QB play all you want, good coaches know how to use their best players and that is something Crowton is awful at.
Look at Crowton's history, everywhere he has been he has taken a great offense and turned them into dogshit. Here at LSU, he has taken a great offense (2007) and has turned it into dogshit (2009 and 2010) You can blame it on QB play all you want, good coaches know how to use their best players and that is something Crowton is awful at.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:17 pm to Hitchcock
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Yes, damn him for making LSU look good! He should stop winning 10 or more games.
Blind optimism is just that, Blind.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:17 pm to BabyTac
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talent digressing
Are you sure that you mean "digressing" and not regressing? Heck, just say "getting worse" and be done with it.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:19 pm to Hitchcock
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No, it's not fabricated.
Yes it is.
Head Coach at Florida State is a more respectable job than being an Offensive Coordinator in the pros.
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Crowton's coached BYU didn't he?
I would argue that, despite their 1984 NC, BYU is not a premiere program. Couple this with the fact that prior to Mendenhall, BYU never had a coach that wasn't Mormon, and this hire hardly rings respectability.
Crowton was the best Mormon for the job, not the best coach.
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You being a born in the 80's kid, that means nothing to you.
I'm quite familiar with BYU's history, especially the part where Crowton basically destroyed their program.
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He's more suited for the NFL though maybe his next stop.
I'll ask again - is OC for the Bears a more prestigious job than HC for Florida State?
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:20 pm to LSUextreme
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Blind optimism is just that, Blind.
LSU's "eliteness" before Miles - non-existant.
112 years, you win 10 games 7 times. 7!! You want to call yourself elite?
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:21 pm to Antonio Moss
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Yes it is.
Head Coach at Florida State is a more respectable job than being an Offensive Coordinator in the pros.
No it's not.
Fishers' a buffer coach. See where he is in 4 years.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:25 pm to Hitchcock
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LSU's "eliteness" before Miles - non-existant.
112 years, you win 10 games 7 times. 7!! You want to call yourself elite?
Are you kidding. I believe a NC is elite. He came in one year removed from a NC. That is elite. OUr programs profile was never higher than 2003. It was widely believed that LSU backed into the 2007 NC prior to underachieving in 2008 and 2009. This season I would say the team was exactly what was exopected record wise in spite of coaching trying to underachieve. This was a 10 win team to start the year.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:32 pm to LSUextreme
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Are you kidding. I believe a NC is elite. He came in one year removed from a NC. That is elite. OUr programs profile was never higher than 2003. It was widely believed that LSU backed into the 2007 NC prior to underachieving in 2008 and 2009.
Never higher than 2003? You weren't respected enough to get the people's vote! People outside of Louisiana don't buy the 2003 team as a NC. You had a split championship & some 8 win seasons under Saban.
Miles is the guy who won 61 games in in 6 seasons. and his NC is undisputed.
This post was edited on 12/2/10 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:35 pm to BabyTac
Baby tack I was agreeing with u until you got to JJ. I think he deserves all the credit for digressing with every game. JJ has played 1 game in 3 years & that was against Bama! 
Posted on 12/2/10 at 12:46 pm to Antonio Moss
It's time to ship off Crowton simply because it's time for a change up top. Offense doesn't seem to have any formulation or forethought. No plays seem to play off each other...unless they run the same play two times in a row, like friggin' middle school ball.
I'll give him props when due, whoever called that DeAngelo Peterson endaround deserves a medal. I LOVED that call. It was at the right part of the field and Peterson had enough athleticism to beat whoever would be pursuing him for the 1st down. But it's time to raise our game.
If Miles went with him and let Chavis get the reins, even better.
I'll give him props when due, whoever called that DeAngelo Peterson endaround deserves a medal. I LOVED that call. It was at the right part of the field and Peterson had enough athleticism to beat whoever would be pursuing him for the 1st down. But it's time to raise our game.
If Miles went with him and let Chavis get the reins, even better.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 1:10 pm to CigarLovingTiger
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shite he put close to 400 passing yards on Bama that year?
and 3 INTS.
Posted on 12/2/10 at 4:28 pm to BabyTac
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Offensive talent digressing under Crowton...
Digressing?
DIGRESSING This is why I love the rant.
No place on earth has more numbnutz who think they are experts than here.
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