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re: Offensive Scheme - LSU or USC

Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by specs1
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Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:14 pm to
No HeeHaw what I am saying is if you want to build a single season go w/ the spread or running qb.

If you want a Dynasty run the pro set.
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:16 pm to
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you guys are making no sense. you are basically saying you would rather have a pro style QB because he has a better shot in the NFL. LSU's main goal is to win. putting players in the league takes a backseat to that.
Really? Name one program that has lost less games than USC in the last 3 years...5 years.

Sounds like you're the one not making sense.
This post was edited on 9/14/09 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:17 pm to
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Yeah, the best ones do but better question, you expect college players to get to the NFL if they can't play "the NFL way"?


This may sound harsh, but Miles (and any other coach) doesn't really care if the system hurts a player's NFL chances, if it helps the team win.
Posted by heehaw
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:17 pm to
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Yeah, the best ones do but better question, you expect college players to get to the NFL if they can't play "the NFL way"?


this isnt hard to understand.

not every college defensive player can play like a starter in the NFL.

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How many college "running" QB's played that way in the pro's?


like i said, NFL has the athletes to stop it, colleges dont. look above.
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Why not just get one that can pass and let the got dam running backs run and recievers catch & run?


uhh, why not have a QB that can throw AND run, while still getting the ball to WRs and Rbs? its not like a running QB takes all the touches away from the rest of the offense. jefferson runs, maybe, 10 running plays, and most of those are options.
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:18 pm to
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This may sound harsh, but Miles (and any other coach) doesn't really care if the system hurts a player's NFL chances, if it helps the team win.
Not as harsh as this. I'm not sure Miles has a "system" yet.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36390 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:18 pm to
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I debunked the above myth and 10 seconds on your board by pointing out that even Notre Dame held Navies rushing attack last year (178 yds) to less yardage than OSU did this year (188 yds).


Yeah. Just saw it on the board after the game. Should have checked it further.
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:19 pm to
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not every college defensive player can play like a starter in the NFL.
Not because they teach 'em to tackle differently though you fricking hard head.
Posted by heehaw
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:20 pm to
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If you want a Dynasty run the pro set.


based on what?

in 06 a big part of Florida's offense was having Tebow come in and run the ball. same in 08 obviously.

USC on the other hand has won ONE NC this decade.
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:20 pm to
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uhh, why not have a QB that can throw AND run, while still getting the ball to WRs and Rbs?
Sure, if it's so easy why can't we find one? Last year Hatch/Lee, this year Jefferson/Lee...
Posted by specs1
Member since Dec 2005
10015 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:21 pm to
Hee-I'm not a USC fan. Can't stand them. Just like their offensive scheme.

Unfortunately they will be in the conversation for the next 3 years in a strong way.
Posted by heehaw
Member since May 2009
4584 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:21 pm to
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Not because they teach 'em to tackle differently though you fricking hard head.


uhh, no because a starter in the NFL is the best of the best, athletically and mentally. college, not so much.
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:22 pm to
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USC on the other hand has won ONE NC this decade.
One BCS one, but no need to even use that measure. Look at they annual success. They're very much in the thick of it for the "Team of the Decade".
This post was edited on 9/14/09 at 10:23 pm
Posted by heehaw
Member since May 2009
4584 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:23 pm to
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Sure, if it's so easy why can't we find one? Last year Hatch/Lee, this year Jefferson/Lee...



well, this kid named ryan perrilloux got kicked off the team. he kind of screwed up our QB situation so we were forced to play an inexperienced QB.
Posted by heehaw
Member since May 2009
4584 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:24 pm to
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One BCS one, but no need to even use that measure. Look at they annual success. They're very much in the thick of it for the "Team of the Decade".


as is florida.
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Member since Jan 2008
34400 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:25 pm to
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well, this kid named ryan perrilloux got kicked off the team. he kind of screwed up our QB situation so we were forced to play an inexperienced QB.
Okay, so 1 in 5? Ryan, J. Lee, A. Hatch, J. Jefferson...

Before Ryan, who was our running QB again? Like I said, if it's so easy, find one- WE ARE LSU ain't we?
Posted by heehaw
Member since May 2009
4584 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:26 pm to
flynn was a runner. i remember him running the options or having designed runs several times a game, and then scrambling on top of that.
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Member since Jan 2008
34400 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:27 pm to
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as is florida
*over here* The thread is about USC's scheme.

If you want to talk about Florida though, I'm good. How many QB's from Florida have gone on to be worth a flying frick in the NFL?
Posted by heehaw
Member since May 2009
4584 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:29 pm to
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If you want to talk about Florida though, I'm good. How many QB's from Florida have gone on to be worth a flying frick in the NFL?


whats more important for a college? winning championships or putting players in the league?
Posted by Geauxtiga
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34400 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:32 pm to
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flynn was a runner.
Whoa...stop the bus, here's where I get off.

Flynn threw for 3,096 yards and 31 TDs, 2,922 yards and 27 touchdowns in his one season as our starter, hardly a "runner". He did rack up a little over 200 yards though.
Posted by topgun1676
Clinton, Maryland
Member since May 2007
1850 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:33 pm to
LSUTangerine, You do realize that the only reason Washington was 0-12 last season is because of injuries, right? The year before last they only lost to USC by what less than 10 points. Hell, Jake Locker was just a freshmen who won Pac-10 player of the year. So now, Jake Locker is healthier, more improved, and just might be the best quarterback in the Pac-10, even though, he technically only played one year. With a healthier running back in Chris Polk coming off a season ending injury from last year, a much more improved defense from the year before, and with a new coaching staff, not to mention that USC travels to Seattle to play this big time game; I wouldn't be surprised at all if this Washington team is ready to play USC. USC has a Freshmen quarterback who is still unproven, eight new starters on defense, and has still yet to prove that they are same USC. If USC gets too comfortable or even thinks about underestimating this opponent; you better believe that Jake Locker will be the one picking USC's defense apart. So, MikeTiger is not to far from the truth believe it or not.
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