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Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:43 pm to gotygers
quote:
brd you won't be so big after washington
I'm not that big right now. 6'0, 187 pounds. Matter of fact, I'm more fit than my oldest daughter's boyfriend.
Be real... you guys are building Washington up to be all that and a bag of chips because they embarrassed the living daylights out of your defense.
The only thing I'm concerned about is the excuse all of you will spin if USC holds them to considerably less points and yardage than your defense did. I would hate to see you boys have to rack your brains into overdrive coming up with that excuse.
quote:
Ohio state is a weak team
I know, I know... and Washington is a really great team that is underrated and should be in the top 15 for losing to LSU by such a respectable margin.
Blah blah blah...
of course Ohio State is a weak team, because USC played them and LSU hangs there had on a game that was essentially played on your home field from over two years ago.
We saw how you performed in a road game with an active crowd, and believe me, very few were impressed with what we saw.
My God, man, LSU was just locked in another one score game with under seven minutes to go at LSU against freaking Vandy
... and you want to talk about weak opponents? 
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:47 pm to cosmicdingo
quote:No fool, it's mainly because they run a Pro Style offense.
SC can afford an immobile QB mainly because no one in their conference can rush the passer.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:50 pm to Geauxtiga
quote:
No fool, it's mainly because they run a Pro Style offense.
Correct.
Matt Lienart
Carson Palmer
Mark Sanchez
JD Booty
All in NFL, 2 as starters. Lienart is heir in Pheonix. JDB got there, which surprises me, but he got there.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:52 pm to heehaw
quote:Yeah, the NFL really buys that logic too.
terrible logic. having a running QB can open up the offense.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:54 pm to Geauxtiga
quote:
Yeah, the NFL really buys that logic too.
All the running qb's that I can think of in the NFL are on the bench.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:54 pm to specs1
quote:What about the guy who never started there? Can't believe his name slips me, my memory is getting TERRIBLE.
Correct.
Matt Lienart
Carson Palmer
Mark Sanchez
JD Booty
All in NFL, 2 as starters. Lienart is heir in Pheonix. JDB got there, which surprises me, but he got there.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:54 pm to Geauxtiga
Matt Cassell.
Yes, the biggest free agent contract of the offseason.
Yes, the biggest free agent contract of the offseason.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:57 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
quote:
Navy went 8-5 last year. OSU held them to their lowest rushing total in 5 years. A bonehead coaching mistake allowed them back in the game.
Buckeye, therein lies the danger of getting your facts from other misinformed posters.
I debunked the above myth and 10 seconds on your board by pointing out that even Notre Dame held Navies rushing attack last year (178 yds) to less yardage than OSU did this year (188 yds).
Don't forget to mention that they gained more yardage through the air against your defense then they likely have against any other defense in the past five years, also.
Your defense is a lot more stout than many will give them credit for, but don't expect credit any time soon from LSU fans.
They've got their own problems, namely a team that is living on the past reputation of their defense, and an offense that is marginal, at best.
Don't forget, if Washington doesn't have a total collapse on a few plays and hangs onto the ball a bit better... they likely would have beaten LSU.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:58 pm to specs1
quote:That's him.
Matt Cassell.
If I was a top QB recruit with no "loyalties" like most of these don't have, out of HS, it would be hard for me to turn down an offer from USC.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:01 pm to byubengalboy
quote:Yeah, "when" matters. I hope ours is not a late season loss to, like, an unranked Arky or sumpin.
Not really...both teams 2-0 with a long way to go. usc will get beat...so will we, it just depends on when and to who.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:02 pm to Geauxtiga
quote:
SC can afford an immobile QB mainly because no one in their conference can rush the passer.
Yeah, we saw how stout your SEC defense was against UW by logging in 1 sack.
Of course, UW also got one sack also, but that doesn't count, I'm guessing.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:03 pm to Geauxtiga
quote:
If I was a top QB recruit with no "loyalties" like most of these don't have, out of HS, it would be hard for me to turn down an offer from USC.
Correct.
The master of the spread offense is RR. Yet, that will not get you to the league w/ a good chance to play. See my earlier posts on Pat White will never take a meaningful snap at QB in the NFL, unless a starter is injured.
So, even though RR is the master he's not putting the QB's in the pros that USC does. Look in Baltimore, Joe Flacco a rookie last year started over 2nd year Troy Smith a former Heisman Winner.
This is what bothers me about LSU's direction. You will not see USC relying on the QB to run the ball. In LSU's case when the QB is running on designed plays that means, Lafell, Scott, Williams, Holliday, Tolliver, Randle are not.
Schemes like RR's serve as partial talent equalizers in a single game situation for lesser talented teams. If you can reload as LSU has been doing, there's no need for a QB running offense.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:04 pm to Geauxtiga
quote:
Yeah, the NFL really buys that logic too.
NFL and CFB are not the same.
NFL has athletes on defense to stop it. most college teams dont.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:06 pm to heehaw
quote:Exactly so why not learn the "NFL way" while you're in college? Could it be why quarterbacks @ USC = NFL?
NFL and CFB are not the same.
NFL has athletes on defense to stop it. most college teams dont.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:09 pm to Geauxtiga
so you are expecting college players to play like NFL players?
mmmk
a running QB just adds another dimension to the offense that defenses have to play for. its not a bad thing.
mmmk
a running QB just adds another dimension to the offense that defenses have to play for. its not a bad thing.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:09 pm to specs1
quote:Dude, as simple as that is, it never REALLY occurred to me.
This is what bothers me about LSU's direction. You will not see USC relying on the QB to run the ball. In LSU's case when the QB is running on designed plays that means, Lafell, Scott, Williams, Holliday, Tolliver, Randle are not.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:11 pm to heehaw
quote:
a running QB just adds another dimension to the offense that defenses have to play for. its not a bad thing.
Ask Dennis Dixon and Pat White.
Dixon's injury took Oregon out of the MNC hunt in a year in which they had already beaten USC. In '07 West Virginia only had to beat unranked Pitt to go to the MNC. White gets banged early and rest is history, LSU wins MNC.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:13 pm to specs1
okay, how about vince young in 2005? flynn in 07? tebow last year?
you guys are making no sense. you are basically saying you would rather have a pro style QB because he has a better shot in the NFL. LSU's main goal is to win. putting players in the league takes a backseat to that.
you guys are making no sense. you are basically saying you would rather have a pro style QB because he has a better shot in the NFL. LSU's main goal is to win. putting players in the league takes a backseat to that.
Posted on 9/14/09 at 10:14 pm to heehaw
quote:Yeah, the best ones do but better question, you expect college players to get to the NFL if they can't play "the NFL way"?
so you are expecting college players to play like NFL players?
How many college "running" QB's played that way in the pro's?
How many on here have said Jlee's the better passer, JJefferson the better runner- passing, not so great. Why not just get one that can pass and let the got dam running backs run and recievers catch & run?
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