re: O deserves a lot more credit than most here give him.

If this offense is as good as people are saying there will be no ineed for these threads anymore.
The majority of fans will be praising him.

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I'm an avid Saints fan, so yes, I've heard of him. For the record though, I don't give a shite if you believe me or not. You're a dumbass. That's clear.

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No you hadnt and you couldnt point out the weak linebacker if someone had a gun to your head so your unprovoked personal attacks mean nothing.
You have no fricking clue all the assistants on the saints.

Im in the other corner. I dont understand the O pure love. What has he really done?
He inherited one of the best programs that anyone has inherited in what 20 years except for Lincoln Riley. And look at what he's done there vs O.

He was handed a big time QB and still only went 5-3 last yr.
For me to say hes done better than most wouldve that inherited this program, he has do no worse than
6-2 in conference and a NY6 win over a real team this year.
LSU has a QB and the highest paid DC in the business, They need to get it done now, like right now. 16 returning starters 8 on each side of the ball. No more excuses.
All this changing the offense, he's making the right moves, look at O, etc.....
Just win the damn games! Period, who cares how. You are what your record says you are.

1. O lost to Florida at home as a 2 TD favorite. Most likely cost LSu the Sugar Bowl
2.Troy- 1st time LSu football was done in Sept since I can remember.
3. A&M last year, 5-3 in conference, lose the last game with what was most likely a NY6 bowl on the line. Somehow this loss didnt hurt LSU.

You cant continue to lose these types of games each year. This is the year we will find out without a doubt, if O can coach at a championship caliber. Hes been at LSU long enough.
Anyone not skeptical of O being a championship caliber coach, just isnt paying attention or is just an O supporter/excuse maker.
He has not propelled the program to another level yet like he said he would when he took the job. But yet the OP posts "O deserves alot more credit than most give him".?

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O's making some very progressive decisions towards bringing our passing game into the modern era, and by hiring a young, inventive mind like Joe Brady, we may just be witnessing an era where LSU actually sets the standard for passing across college football. I've got to say, I'm pleasantly surprised, and I'm glad to see we have a coach that makes a strong effort to fix something when it's broken.

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I think it deserves mentioning that while all of Orgeron's decisions may not necessarily work, it is at least refreshing to see his willingness to at least try to make changes for the better instead of Miles just digging his heels in the last few years with Cameron hoping doing the same thing would produce different results.

I'll still withhold judgment until I see the results on the field, but on paper Brady seems to be the best hire we've made since Aranda. Hopefully he's able to do what they say he is.

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The majority of fans will be praising him.

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The majority will also never admit to bashing him. The Rant is full of retarded and hypocritical sheep. You're not one though. You actually have intuition and the capability of I unique thought.

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Did you just ignore what’s said in the post?

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"We're gonna hire the best coordinators."

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we hear this same thing every year and then get let down come the actual season.

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That’s fair. I’m cautiously optimistic though.

But I’m talking about the posters here that, no matter who O hires or no matter if he’s extremely successful, will never give the guy credit. Ever. I don’t understand the grudges.

Starting to think that perception is more important to some than success.

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I think it deserves mentioning that while all of Orgeron's decisions may not necessarily work, it is at least refreshing to see his willingness to at least try to make changes for the better instead of Miles just digging his heels in the last few years with Cameron hoping doing the same thing would produce different results.

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I see them as two sides of the same coin.

On one hand, one guy sticks with an antiquated offense too long.

The other guy is making major changes to his offense every year.

Neither is optimal.

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I don't know why some on here insist that he be given credit for things before they've come to fruition.

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Yet some wont see string of improvements. He has made the moves to get the program better, quickly.

We had holes last year in the roster, he filled them with Burrow and Fehoko, dont forget Giles, who did not work out as well but we were all excited for his addition. Lets not forget the addition of Cole Tracy. Props to O.

We have a stable staff in Aranda, we have a dedicated safeties coach with an All American Candidate, we have not lost Raymond.

Results wise, we beat the shite out of UGA...we have not beat the shite out of anyone in a long long while. Played in a New Years 6 bowl and finished with a top 10 ranking.

Yes, we need to avoid let down game against UF, but they are not Troy. We need to compete better against Alabama.

To continue to try to point out deficiencies is really kind of sad. I was totally against the hire, but he keeps doing the right things, there is no reason to think he has pulled a rabbit out of his hat again.

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and I will still contest that it was a bad hire. Because it was.

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Just let it go dude.