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re: Notorious LSU hater Dickie V isn't going to like this

Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:16 pm to
Posted by LesnarF5
Member since Apr 2015
9219 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:16 pm to
Thanks TLaw better yet! Thought it was next week.
Posted by WITCH DOCTOR
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
3474 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:26 am to
Dickie V is a nobody, a has been.

He has been shoved down our throats for decades by the media. He is the Paul Finebaum of College basketball. A made up non athletic know it all persona. That is fake as CNN & a plastic tree. He believes his own shite because they let him sit at the grown up table to eat instead of the kiddie table. All of his schtick is staged. He is probably a mini Sandusky and will be exposed after he dies. He protects all his cronies and attacks anyone who threatens his cronies shine.

Best thing to do is dont listen or turn the channel on that 3 haired fricker when he comes on. He really is irrelevant so we should treat him that way.

This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 6:28 am
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40806 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:19 am to
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Zion has to testify...Duke about to be exposed.


FWIW....Zion did not kill himself.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43133 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:00 am to
Posted by HighlandRD_ZERO25
Member since Jun 2016
622 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

quote:
Zion has to testify...



no, he doesn't. He, with assistance of counsel, has to provide written objections/responses to written questions. Big difference. We'll see whether or not Duke gets exposed.




Not sure that you actually read that article or you're just being picky over the word "testify" because yes...Zion has been ordered to answer questions that would ultimately determine his eligibility. His own lawyers are arguing that he, his mother and his stepfather all accepted improper benefits making him ineligible and his voiding whatever contract this company claims to have over him. That absolutely means Duke is going to be exposed....their own former player and his family are using improper benefits as their defense in a case separate from the NCAA. As soon as that is entered into legal record that means that its now a testimony and admittance of major violations. It also means Duke is complicit and knowingly played this athlete while he was ineligible. So...not sure exactly what you're talking about at all....
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
2788 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 2:05 pm to
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Not sure that you actually read that article or you're just being picky over the word "testify" because yes...Zion has been ordered to answer questions that would ultimately determine his eligibility. His own lawyers are arguing that he, his mother and his stepfather all accepted improper benefits making him ineligible and his voiding whatever contract this company claims to have over him. That absolutely means Duke is going to be exposed....their own former player and his family are using improper benefits as their defense in a case separate from the NCAA. As soon as that is entered into legal record that means that its now a testimony and admittance of major violations. It also means Duke is complicit and knowingly played this athlete while he was ineligible. So...not sure exactly what you're talking about at all....

Sorry, man; but it's you that is not understanding the finer points of this case. You have the arguments backwards.

Zion's argument is that he had a right to break the contract b/c the agent/firm did not disclose certain information that they were required to and were not properly registered in N.C. (this is very simplified and not details of the argument), resulting in making the contract null.

The other side is essentially saying that they acknowledge (without actually saying it) that what they did amounted to fraudulent practices in obtaining the contract; however, that the rules Zion is alleging as protection against those practices are only in place to protect NCAA eligible athletes. Therefore, if the other side can prove that Zion accepted improper benefits either before or while he was a player at Duke, then he would have been classified as an ineligible player thus not eligible for the protections under the rules, which would still make the contract a valid one.

Zion's side is not the ones arguing or admitting that he accepted improper benefits.

And what the other poster said about not having to testify is correct. The judge ordered that he has to respond to the discovery request, which is basically a list of questions and statements that he has to answer and/or admit to or deny. So he is not testifying on a witness stand and it is not an oral deposition. However, the responses he gives are under written oath and penalty of perjury; so if he lies and is found to have lied, he would be in trouble.

The thing of it is, which has been explained by others, that these discovery requests can be a long drawn out process in civil cases that often times lead to nothing because the parties get it thrown out or they come to an agreement and the responses never see the light of day. In drawing it out, Zion's attorneys have already taken the first step by appealing the judge's ruling, which will take time in itself. If the ruling is upheld, then his attorneys will likely respond by objections to many, if not all, of the questions and request for admission. Then the other side's recourse is to have to file a motion to compel and argue against the objections and have a judge rule on the objections and force Zion to provide the answers. So all in all, the discovery alone could get dragged out for at least a year or more depending on the court's docket and all of the procedural maneuvers that both sides can make.
Posted by CajunLiberal
Memphis
Member since Oct 2019
256 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 2:55 pm to
Can almost guarantee you that the NCAA will use this as a landmark case to support retroactive implementation of whatever NIL policy they finally apply whereby Duke and Zion cannot be penalized.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45131 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:52 pm to
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How big of news would it be that Dickie V uses his charity to funnel money to the players his board members are recruiting.


Dickie is so delusional that if this did happen it would break him. He would likely commit suicide.
Posted by tigah paw
Gordo Al
Member since Jun 2015
1384 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:43 pm to
Its not gonna just go away like it normally would.Zion can plead the 5th to protect himself from self incrimination.if he isn't facing charges,the judge can make him talk or be held in contempt
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
2788 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 5:05 pm to
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Its not gonna just go away like it normally would.Zion can plead the 5th to protect himself from self incrimination.if he isn't facing charges,the judge can make him talk or be held in contempt

People really need to learn what "pleading the 5th" means.

It's not a criminal offense; so no, he cannot plead the 5th. This is a civil case, not criminal. The only way he could plead the 5th in a civil trial is if his testimony could lead to criminal charges against him, which would not be applicable in this case.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 5:14 pm
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24656 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 8:07 am to
Honest question to tRant lawyers. Is there any legal action LSU can take against Dick after this is all resolved to discourage this from happening in the future?
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 6/5/20 at 8:14 am to
Duke and UNC are probably two of the dirtiest Basketball Programs in the country yet good Ole Dickie will do his
best to smear LSU and ignore the obvious at Duke.

You know Zion has a lot to hide or there never would have been a lawsuit.

Hey Dickie where are you?
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