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re: nevermind
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:24 pm to LSU Patrick
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:24 pm to LSU Patrick
Do you watch college football? Alabama had a better schedule and record than Ohio State, winning your conference isn’t the end all be all of qualifying and that was made clear last season when Penn State didn’t get in. Of course you’re using petty personal reasons instead of sense and being objective. Another snowflake obsessed with Alabama.
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:26 pm to Madking
How do you explain away Wisconsin then?
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:27 pm to GetmorewithLes
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We lost to Troy
Troy is better than Iowa State!
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:51 pm to The Baker
If that were true they would have put in OSU to pull in more northern views.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 11:25 pm to Tom Selleck
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Pretty sure Ridley ran out of bounds, no help from defense, ref dropped hat, came back in and caught pass. TD bama
What I can't understand is why is Hanagriff the only one who has discussed this?
Posted on 12/3/17 at 11:49 pm to Oddibe
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Lost
Why do I keep seeing people use this as the basis for their argument? Is who you lost to and by how much now more important than who you played and actually beat?
I don’t understand that thought process at all. To me it’s more important the quality of opponents that a team plays and if they won or not.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 12:52 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:08 am to supersaints9
The Bama way is Quality loses > Quality wins
Posted on 12/4/17 at 6:49 am to BayouCowboy
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OSU had the bad loss to Iowa and lost to Oklahoma, a playoff team.
So if LSU had a single bad loss to Troy should they be a playoff team?
OSU did it to themselves. It doesn't matter that OU is a playoff team because another playoff team should not lose that badly. That game was much worse than the score.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:14 am to The Baker
"Resume" does matter, except for the obvious exception. Heaven and Earth are moved to make room for Alabama.
In all of the BCS-CGs - only ONCE did a conference champion have to face a conference foe (and one it defeated in the regular season, to boot). Now, this is the first year of the playoffs where 2 teams from the same conference will compete.
In both cases, the exception was made to allow Alabama to compete over a, frankly, more worthy champion of an unrepresented conference.
Just my $0.02.
In all of the BCS-CGs - only ONCE did a conference champion have to face a conference foe (and one it defeated in the regular season, to boot). Now, this is the first year of the playoffs where 2 teams from the same conference will compete.
In both cases, the exception was made to allow Alabama to compete over a, frankly, more worthy champion of an unrepresented conference.
Just my $0.02.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:15 am to The Baker
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:16 am to MadtownTiger
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You have Bama with 1-loss to Auburn at Auburn with a spit and band-aided together defense.
They didn't win their own division on the field - in their biggest rivalry game. With it all on the line.
Why does Bama (consistently) get a Mulligan? Nobody else does (although they would give one to Notre Dame if it were available) - why should Bama?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:32 am to Ace Midnight
Does anyone here really believe that Bama is NOT a top 4 team in the country? That is what the committee is here to do...They will field the best 4 teams that they think will compete the best. That statement was made last year when OSU got in over their own conf champ. OSU decided their own fate getting 55 hung on them on the road to an unranked opponent. People argue Wisconsin but Wisconsin is not a better team than Bama no matter how you slice it.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:34 am to BradL13
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Does anyone here really believe that Bama is NOT a top 4 team in the country?
Let me ask you this - suppose Bama had won the Iron Bowl. With all their injuries they decided, "You know what? We decline the SEC-CG. Let Auburn go anyway. We don't want to get beat up before the playoffs."
Do you put them in, then?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:43 am to Ace Midnight
That is a real hypothetical situation lol. We all know they wouldn't decline the SEC CG so that is irrelevant.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:46 am to BradL13
You're not to take in results from last year to determine what would happen this year
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:46 am to BradL13
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Does anyone here really believe that Bama is NOT a top 4 team in the country? That is what the committee is here to do
And here is where we get the faulty logic that is inherent to this entire process.
Alabama is a better team than Wisconsin, and I'm not sure anyone here would dispute that. So, a 1 loss Alabama should obviously get in over a 1 loss Wisconsin.
But, what if Wisconsin had somehow managed to pull out that win against Ohio State? What if they converted some miracle play and scored in the final seconds and won the game? Would that suddenly make them "better" than Alabama? Not hardly. And yet, they would have gotten in to the playoffs, based on their resume.
It's the same scenario from 2011. Alabama was a superior team to Oklahoma State in 2011. Despite winning the Big XII, everyone made the argument that Bama was the better team, so they should get in. But, if Oklahoma State had made that field goal against Iowa State, they would have been undefeated and would have undoubtedly gotten in to the title game. But kicking a field goal against Iowa State wouldn't suddenly make OSU better than Alabama...and yet had they done so, they would have gotten in...based on their resume.
So, everyone will say Alabama was the right choice because they're the better team - but what they're really saying is that the Big 10 Championship didn't matter, because Alabama is better than Ohio State and Wisconsin, and even if Wisconsin had won, Alabama still should have gone over an undefeated Wisconsin simply because they're "better".
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:52 am to BradL13
His point is that Alabama benefited from losing to Auburn and not making the SECCG. Why didn't Wisconsin get in over Bama? Wisconsin made their championship game, but lost. Bama didn't even get in the SECCG.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:53 am to Cs
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Alabama still should have gone over an undefeated Wisconsin simply because they're "better".
FFS - then we should just replay the SEC-CG and call that the playoffs.
There is no good reason to put 2 teams from the same conference in a 4-team playoff. That issue has been decided by the conference championships. Even a 6-team (where #1 and #2 get a bye), I would take the P5 champions and the best at-large team. the only scenario I can see where it makes sense to put also rans in a P5 race is at 8-teams. Again, the issue has been decided - on the field.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:58 am to Ace Midnight
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FFS - then we should just replay the SEC-CG and call that the playoffs.
That's not my personal view. That's essentially the argument some people are making by saying the "better" team should have gone. They might as well just give Alabama a playoff spot at the beginning of each year since they're always going to have top 3 talent.
If it were up to me, Penn State should have gotten in last year, and Ohio State should have gotten in this year.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 7:59 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:01 am to The Baker
It hasn't mattered since 2011. And I can promise you, that no matter what, as long as saban is the coach of the gumps, they will always be in.
Its almost enough to make me quit watching.
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How is this happening to my favorite sport?
Its almost enough to make me quit watching.
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